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Today had to have been one of the worst days I've had in a while. I took my baby Pebbles of six months to be spayed by a vet that is known for working well with the smaller breeds (show breeder with very small yorkies referred me to him). He spayed both of my other girls and Pebbles was my last one to be done.

I dropped her off this morning and I felt very relaxed as this was my third time going through this procedure (and there were no problems with either of the other girls). Well this afternoon I got a call the Pebbles was in serious condition. For some reason her stomach was filled with oxygen (the vet claims she swallowed and it went the wrong way) and it (her stomach) began to twist. She stopped breathing twice and they (the vet) was concerned she wouldn't make it. She's home with me now and her spay was not completed due to her emergency situation. The worst part is that the vet wants me to bring her back in two weeks to "try this again". I just can't see myself doing this again at least not with this vet. I know its better to spay her if she's not going to be breed (and she's not) but my gosh, I don't know if my heart can take it. I called my breeder (she's great) and she was a big help in calming me down.

Sorry for the long post but I just feel to terrible right now. I thought that maybe writing about it might make me feel better.
 

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OH NO! I'm so glad that she's home and OK now. I'm sure it wasn't your vet's fault, but I wouldn't blame you for using another vet. What a dreadful thing!
 

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:eek: OMG! My heart is hurting for you!
I am so glad she is home safe with you now!
I don't have any advice for going back or not....I don't know if I could do it.
Others will have to help you with that advice.
 

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Oh my heavens! I have heard of problems with anesthesia, in fact both my mom and a close friend lost cats to anesthesia for routine procedures (neuter and dental), but that was years ago. I thought it was so much safer today.

You must be a basket case. I don't blame you for being afraid to try again. Do you know what type of anesthesia you vet used?

Did they actually make an incision in your poor baby or did it happen quickly?

It just terrfies me to think of this. I am so so sorry this happened to Pebbles, but so glad she is okay!
 

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Originally posted by gigimom@Apr 25 2005, 12:16 PM
Today had to have been one of the worst days I've had in a while. I took my baby Pebbles of six months to be spayed by a vet that is known for working well with the smaller breeds (show breeder with very small yorkies referred me to him). He spayed both of my other girls and Pebbles was my last one to be done.

I dropped her off this morning and I felt very relaxed as this was my third time going through this procedure (and there were no problems with either of the other girls). Well this afternoon I got a call the Pebbles was in serious condition. For some reason her stomach was filled with oxygen (the vet claims she swallowed and it went the wrong way) and it (her stomach) began to twist. She stopped breathing twice and they (the vet) was concerned she wouldn't make it. She's home with me now and her spay was not completed due to her emergency situation. The worst part is that the vet wants me to bring her back in two weeks to "try this again". I just can't see myself doing this again at least not with this vet. I know its better to spay her if she's not going to be breed (and she's not) but my gosh, I don't know if my heart can take it.  I called my breeder (she's great) and she was a big help in calming me down.

Sorry for the long post but I just feel to terrible right now. I thought that maybe writing about it might make me feel better.
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I don't know about dogs - but in people oxygen in the stomach means that intubation was incorrect (instead of trachea you end up in esophagus, leading to stomach). So, check to see if they intubated her...if so, its their fault for not getting it into the right place. In people we check the lungs by listening to be sure we are not in the wrong place.

Sorry you have to go though this!!
 

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It sounds like that when they were innovating her(putting the tube down her throat) they didn't check to make sure it was in her lungs not her stomach. It is not hard to misjudge that. You are aiming for a lil flap over the trachea that has to be pulled down then the tube inserted. If you go a little to the left or right you miss and go in the stomach it feels the same way going in. We used to have to double check this by giving a gentle push on the rib cage to make them expel a breath which you should feel coming out the tube if you didn't feel the puff then you knew you were in the stomach. This is just my opinion but that is their error and not due to the dog swallowing I wouldn't let them touch my dog again. Also find out who inserted the tube 9 out of 10 times it was a tech not the vet. They would be caring for my dog and not charging me anything.


Mind you this my expierence from years ago as a tech....
 

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Oh no!!!! I'm glad Pebbles is home with you now!!!! I would be a wreck!!!!! I always get so scared when it comes to anesthesia just from the stories I have heard. I hope that Pebbles stays well and hopefully someone will be able to explain a little more about what happened so you could decide what your next step will be.
 

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Oh my! I would be a mess too! I am so sorry you and Pebbles had to go through this. If this vet is as good as everyone says he is then I would stick with him. I would wait longer than 2 weeks to go back though, my goodness 2 weeks is such a short amount of time. Maybe call the vet and ask him what kind of anaesthesia they used and tell him you are concerned about bringing her back after just 2 weeks. Even bad things happen to good vets so maybe this was just a freak thing that never happens to him. I wouldn't find a new vet just because of that. Well maybe I would since it was such a life and death thing. But it will be hard to find another excellent vet with such short notice. Humm maybe the vet techs will have better advice.
 

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You know, if this was my vet (no matter how good people say he is), I would not let him touch my baby again. If I am right about what happened, then its a gross error and one he should have realized earlier.
 

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Oh gosh!! that must of been so scarry, i could just imagine your blood pressure dropping i know mine would
. I am glad shes doing good at home with you and i too would be scared to go thru it again, what if it happens again, you need to ask the vet or another vet if it is possible that this would happen again. Again i am glad she is doing ok.
 

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Originally posted by okw@Apr 25 2005, 02:31 PM
You know, if this was my vet (no matter how good people say he is), I would not let him touch my baby again.  If I am right about what happenede, then its a gross error and one he should have realized earlier.
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I agree it is a gross error not due to the dog swallowing..... I was a tech for 5 years and have done this procedure many times. It was easy to misjudge that is why we were taught to always double check, and it sounds like they didn't double check.
 

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Oh that scary. I would totally try and find a differnt vet to 're-try' the spay. And call that breeder who refered you to let them know what happened, they proubly referre a lot a people there.
 

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Originally posted by okw@Apr 25 2005, 03:31 PM
You know, if this was my vet (no matter how good people say he is), I would not let him touch my baby again.  If I am right about what happenede, then its a gross error and one he should have realized earlier.
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I agree. It's unfortunate that you are in this position now, finding a good vet can be hard, but if it is the intubation like mentioned, that's something that should have been checked. I mean it's sort of routine, and if they get sloppy with something like that it's gotta make you think about how other procedures are handled. I'm just glad that Pebbles is okay and I would hate to have something else happen to her. I know mistakes happen, but when it comes to these little ones, I get VERY paranoid.
 

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You poor thing, you must be at your wits end over this. I hope she'll be feeling better soon.....I would call around to a few other Vets in the area and get their opinion on what happened. Most will talk to you (if they are any good) and try to explain it. Then maybe you will feel better going to one of them. Cuddles and extra kisses to Pebbles from Sisse...
 

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Originally posted by okw@Apr 25 2005, 03:31 PM
You know, if this was my vet (no matter how good people say he is), I would not let him touch my baby again.  If I am right about what happened, then its a gross error and one he should have realized earlier.
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I agree. I was writing my post when those other posts were posted so I didn't read that this was their error. I wouldn't trust them to do it again. I would start looking for a new vet.
Someone that knows more about this stuff please comment on the going back in 2 weeks thing. Is that too soon?
 

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So glad shes home with you. I know what you mean about trying again. I didn't know if I would have the nerve to. But I do think your will be more at ease with another Vet. Make sure you tell them what happen so they can give special attention to Pebbles.
 

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Originally posted by LadysMom@Apr 25 2005, 02:22 PM
Did they actually make an incision in your poor baby or did it happen quickly?

It just terrfies me to think of this. I am so so sorry this happened to Pebbles, but so glad she is okay!
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Yes, there is an incision which is my other issue. Now I have to have her cut again. That can't be good for her.
 
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