T you beat me to it as i just read this on another group and am i reading this right we will have to give yearly rabies vaccines to our dogs instead of every 3 years? I hope i am reading this wrong. Is this a ploy to raise money for our state that is in trouble at the detriment of our dogs health? If this is the case I am moving as this scares me. First heartworm scare today now this I am sick to my stomach
Bill to Quarantine Dogs w/ Rabies Exemptions for Health in California
NOTICE: CALIFORNIA DOG OWNERS -- On 12/21/09 Dr. Ben Sun (916) 552-9744, Interim Chief of California's Veterinary Public Health Section, designated ALL COUNTIES in California as "rabies areas" http://www.cdph.ca.gov/HealthInfo/discond/Documents/2010_LHD_Rabies_Declaration_Letter.pdf.
The declaration states: "The Director of the Department of Public Health has declared all counties in California as 'rabies areas' in 2010. This declaration is based on the ongoing cyclic nature of rabies in California wildlife, and the resulting threat of exposure to domestic animals, livestock, and humans."
An April 5, 2010 amendment to AB2000 AB 2000 Assembly Bill - AMENDED which seeks to add a medical exemption clause for sick dogs in designated "rabies areas," would included the following language:
" (2) A dog exempt from the canine antirabies vaccination shall be kept quarantined as directed by the local health officer, until the
dog's medical condition has resolved and the administration of the canine antirabies vaccine occurs."
This bill is currently in the Senate Rules Committee for consideration.
Under current law, the Department of Public Health is authorized to require annual rabies vaccinations in designated "rabies areas," which includes ALL counties in California for 2010. With the passage of AB2000 as amended on April 5th, dogs with medical exemptions would be required to be quarantined, which could be in an off-site pound or facility as determined by the local health officer, until their medical condition resolves or they are given a rabies vaccine.
The declaration states: "The Director of the Department of Public Health has declared all counties in California as 'rabies areas' in 2010. This declaration is based on the ongoing cyclic nature of rabies in California wildlife, and the resulting threat of exposure to domestic animals, livestock, and humans."
An April 5, 2010 amendment to AB2000 AB 2000 Assembly Bill - AMENDED which seeks to add a medical exemption clause for sick dogs in designated "rabies areas," would included the following language:
" (2) A dog exempt from the canine antirabies vaccination shall be kept quarantined as directed by the local health officer, until the
dog's medical condition has resolved and the administration of the canine antirabies vaccine occurs."
This bill is currently in the Senate Rules Committee for consideration.
Under current law, the Department of Public Health is authorized to require annual rabies vaccinations in designated "rabies areas," which includes ALL counties in California for 2010. With the passage of AB2000 as amended on April 5th, dogs with medical exemptions would be required to be quarantined, which could be in an off-site pound or facility as determined by the local health officer, until their medical condition resolves or they are given a rabies vaccine.
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so are you reading it the same way I am as jean dodds says the law is 3 years not yearly as i emailed her immediately asking her about this.This is sick!!
I am saddened by this. California is usually the state that leads the way when it comes to changing health laws for the better. 
I agree. Someone on my yorkie group who is a vet tech said they did the same thing in Tenessee made it 1 year for 2 years then went back to 3 years and lifted the one year. She said bc they had a high incidence of rabies in the state. Is there a way to see how many actual cases of rabies were in california to cause this?
I am sorry but i cannot help but think this is money motivated since state is in trouble and they can raise more money in fines or something
In helping with so many sick pups this really scares me for them.
Dh has been trying to get me to move and this is one thing that will make me move lollllll
I am sorry but i cannot help but think this is money motivated since state is in trouble and they can raise more money in fines or something
In helping with so many sick pups this really scares me for them.
Dh has been trying to get me to move and this is one thing that will make me move lollllll
I'm reading this bill differently than you guys, I think. The way I read it, what it is doing is allowing a rabies vaccination exemption for immune-compromised dogs AND requiring cities, towns, counties, etc. to issue licenses despite the fact that the dog is not current on its rabies vaccination. It goes on to say, however, that the exemption is not good for the period of the license but that the exemption (not the vaccination) must be renewed annually, and that the dog must be quarantined for the period of the exemption. What troubles me is the word "quarantined" because that could be interpreted as "in home or on property confinement" by some while others may interpret it as "kept in a pound." I would be interested in hearing Dr. Dodd's response (hopefully she will respond) and I'm searching some of the dog legislation websites to see if I can find any position papers that shed any light on this.
Edited to add --
I just found the following at http://www.i-love-dogs.com/forums/d...ical-exemption-bill-ab-2000-action-alert.html written by Kris L. Christine of Rabies Challenge Fund:
2 Different Bills -- AB 2000 and AB 2689
IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION:
TWO bills affecting the rabies law have been introduced into the CA legislature.
The first, which we support is AB 2000 putting a medical exemption clause into the law -- Agriculture Committee phone is 916-319-2084.
The second bill, AB 2689, we oppose. We are against the bill because if the State Public Health Officer determines that an area is a "rabies area" (perhaps because an extra skunk or racoon is confirmed with rabies), then dogs will be required to be vaccinated annually instead of once every 3 years and will be required to be vaccinated against rabies at 3 months instead of at 4 months. The Local Government Committee phone is (916) 319-3958.
It is confusing, but there are 2 different bills in 2 different committees -- one we support, one we do not.
I will start a separate thread for AB 2689 in the morning.
Kris
__________________
Kris L. Christine
Founder, Co-Trustee
THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND
www.RabiesChallengeFund.org
Edited to add --
I just found the following at http://www.i-love-dogs.com/forums/d...ical-exemption-bill-ab-2000-action-alert.html written by Kris L. Christine of Rabies Challenge Fund:
2 Different Bills -- AB 2000 and AB 2689
IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION:
TWO bills affecting the rabies law have been introduced into the CA legislature.
The first, which we support is AB 2000 putting a medical exemption clause into the law -- Agriculture Committee phone is 916-319-2084.
The second bill, AB 2689, we oppose. We are against the bill because if the State Public Health Officer determines that an area is a "rabies area" (perhaps because an extra skunk or racoon is confirmed with rabies), then dogs will be required to be vaccinated annually instead of once every 3 years and will be required to be vaccinated against rabies at 3 months instead of at 4 months. The Local Government Committee phone is (916) 319-3958.
It is confusing, but there are 2 different bills in 2 different committees -- one we support, one we do not.
I will start a separate thread for AB 2689 in the morning.
Kris
__________________
Kris L. Christine
Founder, Co-Trustee
THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND
www.RabiesChallengeFund.org
You are right, Mary. This bill does allow a medical exemption from the rabies vaccine which did not exist before.I'm reading this bill differently than you guys, I think. The way I read it, what it is doing is allowing a rabies vaccination exemption for immune-compromised dogs AND requiring cities, towns, counties, etc. to issue licenses despite the fact that the dog is not current on its rabies vaccination. It goes on to say, however, that the exemption is not good for the period of the license but that the exemption (not the vaccination) must be renewed annually, and that the dog must be quarantined for the period of the exemption. What troubles me is the word "quarantined" because that could be interpreted as "in home or on property confinement" by some while others may interpret it as "kept in a pound." I would be interested in hearing Dr. Dodd's response (hopefully she will respond) and I'm searching some of the dog legislation websites to see if I can find any position papers that shed any light on this.
Edited to add --
I just found the following from Kris L. Christine of Rabies Challenge Fund:
2 Different Bills -- AB 2000 and AB 2689
IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION:
TWO bills affecting the rabies law have been introduced into the CA legislature.
The first, which we support is AB 2000 putting a medical exemption clause into the law -- Agriculture Committee phone is 916-319-2084.
The second bill, AB 2689, we oppose. We are against the bill because if the State Public Health Officer determines that an area is a "rabies area" (perhaps because an extra skunk or racoon is confirmed with rabies), then dogs will be required to be vaccinated annually instead of once every 3 years and will be required to be vaccinated against rabies at 3 months instead of at 4 months. The Local Government Committee phone is (916) 319-3958.
It is confusing, but there are 2 different bills in 2 different committees -- one we support, one we do not.
I will start a separate thread for AB 2689 in the morning.
Kris
__________________
Kris L. Christine
Founder, Co-Trustee
THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND
www.RabiesChallengeFund.org
What constitutes "quarantine" is the big issue. As of now, local heath departments will determine where the quarantine will take place, i.e. a pound, etc.
This really is the standard for states that currently allow a veterinarians exemptions from the rabies vaccine. All that really means is that you won't be fined for not getting the rabies vaccine. In the event your dog bites someone or is exposed to rabies, a quarantine is still mandatory, exemption or not.
Where I moved from, New York, quarantine can be your vet's office or a kennel in addition to a shelter.
This makes those of us with immune compromised dogs weigh the risk of getting the vaccine with the stress and expense of quarantine should your dog be exposed to rabies. Lady nearly died from her last rabies vaccine at age 10. My vet and I decided she could no longer get the vaccine. At age 14.5, she is now basically an indoor dog, only outside on my deck and in her stroller, no boarding, etc. With her health issues (diabetes, etc.), I don't think she could survive a quarantine so I keep the risk of exposure as low as possible.
I emailed dr dodds about it already and she responded to me that the law is 3 years but some vets will try to use this to get owners to vaccinate yearly based on this information.I'm reading this bill differently than you guys, I think. The way I read it, what it is doing is allowing a rabies vaccination exemption for immune-compromised dogs AND requiring cities, towns, counties, etc. to issue licenses despite the fact that the dog is not current on its rabies vaccination. It goes on to say, however, that the exemption is not good for the period of the license but that the exemption (not the vaccination) must be renewed annually, and that the dog must be quarantined for the period of the exemption. What troubles me is the word "quarantined" because that could be interpreted as "in home or on property confinement" by some while others may interpret it as "kept in a pound." I would be interested in hearing Dr. Dodd's response (hopefully she will respond) and I'm searching some of the dog legislation websites to see if I can find any position papers that shed any light on this.
Edited to add --
I just found the following at CALIFORNIA--Medical Exemption Bill AB 2000 ACTION ALERT! - Dog Health & Nutrition - Dog Forums - I-Love-Dogs.com written by Kris L. Christine of Rabies Challenge Fund:
2 Different Bills -- AB 2000 and AB 2689
IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION:
TWO bills affecting the rabies law have been introduced into the CA legislature.
The first, which we support is AB 2000 putting a medical exemption clause into the law -- Agriculture Committee phone is 916-319-2084.
The second bill, AB 2689, we oppose. We are against the bill because if the State Public Health Officer determines that an area is a "rabies area" (perhaps because an extra skunk or racoon is confirmed with rabies), then dogs will be required to be vaccinated annually instead of once every 3 years and will be required to be vaccinated against rabies at 3 months instead of at 4 months. The Local Government Committee phone is (916) 319-3958.
It is confusing, but there are 2 different bills in 2 different committees -- one we support, one we do not.
I will start a separate thread for AB 2689 in the morning.
Kris
__________________
Kris L. Christine
Founder, Co-Trustee
THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND
www.RabiesChallengeFund.org
I can ask her about the quarantine part of it but I think it read it was trying to pass it this way is the problem
(2) A dog exempt from the canine antirabies vaccination shall be kept quarantined as directed by the local health officer, until the
dog's medical condition has resolved and the administration of the canine antirabies vaccine occurs."
this is the part that concerns
AB 2000 Assembly Bill - AMENDED
b) Every dog owner, after his or her dog attains the age of four
months, shall, at intervals of time not more often than once a year,
as may be prescribed by the department, procure its vaccination by a licensed veterinarian with a canine antirabies vaccine approved by, and in a manner prescribed by, the department, unless a licensed
veterinarian determines, on an annual basis, that the dog
may have a potentially lethal reaction to the canine antirabies
vaccine. is currently immune compromised or has a
documented medical record of a preexisting condition, including, but
not limited to, an immune mediated disease, or a serious adverse
reaction to a prior canine antirabies vaccine.
Under current law, the Department of Public Health is authorized to require annual rabies vaccinations in designated "rabies areas," which includes ALL counties in California for 2010. With the passage of AB2000 as amended on April 5th, dogs with medical exemptions would be required to be quarantined, which could be in an off-site pound or facility as determined by the local health officer, until their medical condition resolves or they are given a rabies vaccine.
In reading this what if the dogs medical condition never resolves as it is a life long illness I have heard they currently put a sign infront of your home saying A QUARANTINED DOG LIVES HERE if you can get a health waiver approved .
In reading this what if the dogs medical condition never resolves as it is a life long illness
I have heard they currently put a sign infront of your home saying A QUARANTINED DOG LIVES HERE if you can get a health waiver approved .I'm more confused now that I've gone to the Rabies Challenge Fund Facebook page. Are they supporting or not supporting the bill? As late as mid-April they were supporting AB2000. Have they pulled their support because of the quarantine language? I still am not reading anything that leads me to believe that CA is leaning toward changing to an annual rabies vaccination protocol and any vet who pushes that position should be reported to the state licensing board. But I do agree that the quarantine language is very troubling in its lack of clarity.I emailed dr dodds about it already and she responded to me that the law is 3 years but some vets will try to use this to get owners to vaccinate yearly based on this information.
I can ask her about the quarantine part of it but I think it read it was trying to pass it this way is the problem
ok thanks let me know what you want me to ask Jean and i will email her as she does all our blood work and has for years and she is amazing - I usually do not get into all the political aspects but when i saw this it concerned me and was reading we were going to 1 year rabies and 3 years is bad enoughI'm more confused now that I've gone to the Rabies Challenge Fund Facebook page. Are they supporting or not supporting the bill? As late as mid-April they were supporting AB2000. Have they pulled their support because of the quarantine language? I still am not reading anything that leads me to believe that CA is leaning toward changing to an annual rabies vaccination protocol and any vet who pushes that position should be reported to the state licensing board. But I do agree that the quarantine language is very troubling in its lack of clarity.
after having dogs with health issues that scared me
I think it's gone to the Senate committee so I guess it's a wait & see about the specifics of a quarantine. They are probably reserving judgment.I'm more confused now that I've gone to the Rabies Challenge Fund Facebook page. Are they supporting or not supporting the bill? As late as mid-April they were supporting AB2000. Have they pulled their support because of the quarantine language? I still am not reading anything that leads me to believe that CA is leaning toward changing to an annual rabies vaccination protocol and any vet who pushes that position should be reported to the state licensing board. But I do agree that the quarantine language is very troubling in its lack of clarity.
marj do you know anything about this one?I think it's gone to the Senate committee so I guess it's a wait & see about the specifics of a quarantine. They are probably reserving judgment.
The second bill, AB 2689, we oppose. We are against the bill because if the State Public Health Officer determines that an area is a "rabies area" (perhaps because an extra skunk or racoon is confirmed with rabies), then dogs will be required to be vaccinated annually instead of once every 3 years and will be required to be vaccinated against rabies at 3 months instead of at 4 months. The Local Government Committee phone is (916) 319-3958.
I am trying to find a site where I can read the most current version of the proposed bill without the editorials. Google searches are impossible. Wish I had Lexis Nexis or Westlaw on my computer!marj do you know anything about this one?
The second bill, AB 2689, we oppose. We are against the bill because if the State Public Health Officer determines that an area is a "rabies area" (perhaps because an extra skunk or racoon is confirmed with rabies), then dogs will be required to be vaccinated annually instead of once every 3 years and will be required to be vaccinated against rabies at 3 months instead of at 4 months. The Local Government Committee phone is (916) 319-3958.
ok let me know what you find and thanks for helping me on this as i am worried about this as the tech in tennessee said it sounds like they are going to do in california what they did in tennessee due to some wild life coming into some neighborhoods.I am trying to find a site where I can read the most current version of the proposed bill without the editorials. Google searches are impossible. Wish I had Leis Nexis or Westlaw on my computer!
i just found this
CALIFORNIA Rabies Bill AB 2689 |
http://saveourdogs.net/
whew i think i can sleep tonight now lollll
CALIFORNIA Rabies Bill AB 2689 |
http://saveourdogs.net/
whew i think i can sleep tonight now lollll
It sounds like they are leaning towards defining certain areas that are at a higher risk for rabies due to skunks, raccoons, etc.ok let me know what you find and thanks for helping me on this as i am worried about this as the tech in tennessee said it sounds like they are going to do in california what they did in tennessee due to some wild life coming into some neighborhoods.
I lived in New York for many years and this was the norm. In my county, Dutchess, one year the # of cases of rabid raccoons was so high we were required to get our pets an annual rabies booster for a year or two. People were finding dead foxes on their property that tested positive for rabies. It really was pretty scary. Rabid raccoons were climbing into pens and attacking dogs and chasing people in their own yards in the middle of the day.
Between rabies and the rare mosquitoes, you Californians are getting a taste of the how the rest of us have to live!!!
lol that is why i never moved to ohio lolllllIt sounds like they are leaning towards defining certain areas that are at a higher risk for rabies due to skunks, raccoons, etc.
I lived in New York for many years and this was the norm. In my county, Dutchess, one year the # of cases of rabid raccoons was so high we were required to get our pets an annual rabies booster for a year or two. People were finding dead foxes on their property that tested positive for rabies. It really was pretty scary. Rabid raccoons were climbing into pens and attacking dogs and chasing people in their own yards in the middle of the day.
Between rabies and the rare mosquitoes, you Californians are getting a taste of the how the rest of us have to live!!!
hey we pay big time for not having to do those things in cost of living and vet bills lollll We all have a price loll
ok so i guess it will be county by county then - WHEW
Thanks for your help as I am exhausted from all this excitement today lollll
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