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I'm planning on switching my girls to Orijen. I'm worried about Libby though, with the MVD. Right now, she's on NB ultra and she doesn't have any trouble with it. I had her on another NB food and she threw up atleast once a day.:huh:

I feel that both have seasonal allerigies. Ear scratching, honking and runny noses. Libby was on allergy meds for a short time. It worked well but I don't want to keep the girls on meds long term. I'd like to start with their diet, to see if that helps.

Would the Orijen be too rich for Libby?

Thank you in advance for any help!
 

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Is the Orijen higher in protein? I would check with your vet or the specialist before changing her since she is doing well on the NB.
 

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Thank you Cosy! I'd love to find a good grain free dry food that isn't too high in protein. After reading here about Orijen, that may not be a good choice for Libby.

I will surely ask the vet before we switch:thumbsup:
 

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Thank you Cosy! I'd love to find a good grain free dry food that isn't too high in protein. After reading here about Orijen, that may not be a good choice for Libby.

I will surely ask the vet before we switch:thumbsup:
If she is doing well on it, why are you changing? What did you read about it that is making you switch?

If your Malt has a medical condition that could be adversly affected by the food she eats, I would def. get advice from your vet.
 

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Thank you all for your help!

I want to switch to grain free, because of the allergies. To me this is worth a try before one/both have to go on meds.

Here's my wish list:

Fish as the main source of protien
Grain free
Dye free
Nothing artificial
Low carb
Organic would be really nice too

Is there such a product out there LOL?:blink:

I checked out Acana and that looks promising. I like how Lactobacillus acidophilus is one of the ingredients.
 

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Thank you all for your help!

I want to switch to grain free, because of the allergies. To me this is worth a try before one/both have to go on meds.

Here's my wish list:

Fish as the main source of protien
Grain free
Dye free
Nothing artificial
Low carb
Organic would be really nice too

Is there such a product out there LOL?:blink:

I checked out Acana and that looks promising. I like how Lactobacillus acidophilus is one of the ingredients.
Acana Pacifica fits the bill, except for organic.
 

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Thank you all for your help!

I want to switch to grain free, because of the allergies. To me this is worth a try before one/both have to go on meds.

Here's my wish list:

Fish as the main source of protien
Grain free
Dye free
Nothing artificial
Low carb
Organic would be really nice too

Is there such a product out there LOL?:blink:

I checked out Acana and that looks promising. I like how Lactobacillus acidophilus is one of the ingredients.
Regarding allergies .. have you considered a non-food cause? Allergies are most often non-food related. Kallie was diagnosed with allergies a few years ago and I was ready to change her food, and then noticed that my cleaning lady had used a powder deodorizer on my carpet. Once I got it out of the carpet, Kallie had no more problems. So, you may want to look at your environment, as well.
 

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Regarding allergies .. have you considered a non-food cause? Allergies are most often non-food related. Kallie was diagnosed with allergies a few years ago and I was ready to change her food, and then noticed that my cleaning lady had used a powder deodorizer on my carpet. Once I got it out of the carpet, Kallie had no more problems. So, you may want to look at your environment, as well.
:thumbsup: I agree. Inhaled/environmental allergies are far more common than food allergies.
 

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90% of allergies are inhalent, 10% are food. So the others are right in saying changing the food may not help a thing.

Plus a true elimination diet means feeding one carb and one protein for 12 weeks. There is no kibble diet that is a true elimination diet.
 

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Thank you all for your imput!

Most likely the allergies are something in the environment. :blink:

Overall, I want the best food possible for my fluffs. I really would like to get Effie off of the Royal Canin.

Even though Libby's ok on the NB I feel there are better products out there, that she would tolerate as well.
 

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Thank you all for your imput!

Most likely the allergies are something in the environment. :blink:

Overall, I want the best food possible for my fluffs. I really would like to get Effie off of the Royal Canin.

Even though Libby's ok on the NB I feel there are better products out there, that she would tolerate as well.
Sometimes simple things can trigger environmental allergies like carpet powders as Sher mentioned. Another culprit can be the dyes and perfumes in the laundry detergents and dryer sheets you wash their bedding in. Dogs can be allergic to mold and dust mites just like we are.

Lady and I both have allergies. Using perfume free detergents and air purifiers in the house really helps. Adding fatty acids can also help with allergies.

Allergy and Atopy Treatment in Dogs
 

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Thanks Ladiesmom! My son and I have really bad allergies too. Grass, dust mites, molds and a ton more. It's such a battle.

We have carpeting in our living-room and I want it pulled up badly! Hubby doesn't want it to go. Someday, he may come home from work to find the carpet at the curb LOL:HistericalSmiley:
 

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My main two foods right now are "Acana Pacifica" and "Grandma Lucy's". I' been using Acana for a long time now and my malt's blood work was all in the normal range. I reccommend it.......but my local pet food store does NOT. He refuses to sell Origen or Acana to anyone who has a small breed dog. He says it is too rich for them and knows of too many small breeds whose kidney values were up...... The only way I can buy Acana at his store is if he is not in :w00t:
 

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My main two foods right now are "Acana Pacifica" and "Grandma Lucy's". I' been using Acana for a long time now and my malt's blood work was all in the normal range. I reccommend it.......but my local pet food store does NOT. He refuses to sell Origen or Acana to anyone who has a small breed dog. He says it is too rich for them and knows of too many small breeds whose kidney values were up...... The only way I can buy Acana at his store is if he is not in :w00t:
So, if the expert at the pet store does not recommend it, based on real-life experience, I'm curious why you insist on using it. Your Malt is still very young. And JMM (a long-time vet tech) had a negative experience with it, too:
http://spoiledmaltese.com/forum/60-maltese-food-snacks-treats/107764-need-advice-best-nutritional-dry-food-my-jasper.html
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I've been feeding Preston Orijen 5 fish (or whatever its called) for a few months. He's starting to hate it so I'm looking for something else. He scratches and honks as well but I don't believe it's the food. Most likely the old carpet that we'll change once he's better with wee pads. I'm trying Nutri Source Pure Vita right now and he prefers that. It has grains but I'm not so sure that's a bad thing. His allergies don't seem any worse.

Nutri Source also makes a organic version of this food that I would buy but right now I'm just givig him a free sample to see if he likes it and it agrees with him.
 

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So, if the expert at the pet store does not recommend it, based on real-life experience, I'm curious why you insist on using it. Your Malt is still very young. And JMM (a long-time vet tech) had a negative experience with it, too:
http://spoiledmaltese.com/forum/60-maltese-food-snacks-treats/107764-need-advice-best-nutritional-dry-food-my-jasper.html
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I would NOT soley feed Acana. I am constantly rotating different types of food for VARIETY and because my malt is very picky.
My malts bloodwork was excellent. This is the foods that I rotate: Acana Pacifica, Grandma Lucy's Lamb and Chicken, Merrick canned foods, Cani-Source dehydrated raw and homecooked. These are all high quality foods. She gets a lot of variety and I am lucky she has no issues switching all these foods around. Like others have stated........variety is important and I would not stick to the same bag of food day in and dayout. Mine likes variety and Acana as part of a rotation diet has done wonders for her health.
 

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I have fed my dogs Fromm's Surf and Turf for years. I've recently added a little Acana Grasslands for variety,but the Fromms is their main kibble. It is mainly fish based(it may also contain some duck) and it is grain free. It gets high marks from dogfood analysis. It is also a tiny (and I mean tiny) kibble which my little Havanese prefers. I also think the protein is slightly lower than Acana- maybe 26 to 28 percent. I have 2 great dog food stores in my area that freely give me samples to try. I have placed 10 different samples of all different high end dog foods on 10 different plates in the past and my dogs sniff each one and ALWAYS pick the Fromms Surf and Turf. Their blood work has always been perfect. I will also add some Tiki canned dog food which is phenomenal!!! It is all human grade and looks like something we would eat. Some of the fish based cans are salmon, tuna, and sardines. My dogs LOVE this food more than anything else and their poops stay firm even though I am adding the soft food to their kibble.
 

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I would NOT soley feed Acana. I am constantly rotating different types of food for VARIETY and because my malt is very picky.
My malts bloodwork was excellent. This is the foods that I rotate: Acana Pacifica, Grandma Lucy's Lamb and Chicken, Merrick canned foods, Cani-Source dehydrated raw and homecooked. These are all high quality foods. She gets a lot of variety and I am lucky she has no issues switching all these foods around. Like others have stated........variety is important and I would not stick to the same bag of food day in and dayout. Mine likes variety and Acana as part of a rotation diet has done wonders for her health.
Sounds to me like you are taking very good care of your fluff. Rumors regarding various dog foods for small dogs abound, and whether the info is correct or not, who really knows? It's great that you think for yourself to do what is best for your fluff and you.
 
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