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The speciaist my vet told me to see is at syd uni. I'm glad to hear you rhink highly of them too. You've been right about everything. Thank you so much.
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Oh that's great! Do you have an appointment yet? Just keep in mind if it's early in the morning, Parramatta Rd is a total CAR PARK in peak traffic! What should take me 20 minutes has taken me over an hour (plus Dakota gets car sick - not good!)

I know it's not exactly close to you, so hopefully Eddie will enjoy his trip in the car!
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Eddie absolutly loves the car! Its one of his fav things. I don't have an appointmet yet because I thought i should check with a new vet first. Maybe I should just make an appointment. Is it hard to get in fast?
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I'd just give them a call & have a chat - let them know what your current vet has suggested, and explain to them that Eddie collapsed yesterday, and also that he was sick last night. They might just book you to see the specialist, or they might have you see a vet for a consult first. Also, ask them about fees, they should be able to give you an estimate.

I do know that the times we have been there have been in the morning - I think they have surgeries & classes in the afternoon, but I'm not sure.

Good luck and keep us posted!

ps: there is also a big emergency vet clinic in Ashfield, but I believe they can be very expensive. I'll try & find details ....
 

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I am very sorry that Eddie is having some health issues. I haven't read all the posts - but it certainly sounded like a seizure of some type - My cocker had one 4 yrs ago and it was heart breaking - she was just walking across the floor and collapsed, then got up again and shook it off - hasn't had another one. (i did take her to the vet freaking out on Thanksgiving day).

My mini. Schz. had a heart murmur from birth - and she lived to a ripe age of 16.5 yrs. w/it - it stayed pretty much the same size all of her life.

I hope you get to the bottom of this soon. An ultrasound is expensive - but it will certainly give you peace of mind.

you and eddie are in my thoughts and prayers.
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Your post has really given me some hope and reassurance. Here's hoping that Eddie will turn out the same
 

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Hi everyone,

Just giving an update. i took Eddie to another vet tonight. My aunty takes her dogs there and Eddie also went there for puppy preschool. So I thought i'd give it a try. They were excellent. They explained so much to me and explained certain possibilities.

It still doesn't sound very good.
The vets were concerned because it is such a large murmer for his age and size. I am bringing him there on friday morning and they will do an ultursound and other tests. When they figure out why he has this murmer we can discuss what things we can do to help him and they will refer me to a suitbale specialist. I am sick with worry and still so upset for my little baby. But I am extremerly happy wirh my new vet. I am disgusted about the way the old vet handled the situation. They aren't doing their job properly. I can't help but wonder would Eddie be this bad if the new vets had been the ones to see him from the start?
 

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Did your vet grade Eddie's heart murmur? My Lady was diagnosed with a Grade 1 heart murmur (the mildest) when I adopted her age age 4 &1/2. She is now eleven and it has never gotten any worse.

A co-worker had a Poodle whose heart murmur got very bad as he aged, but with medications he lived to be nearly 17. She had the advantage of having a vet school right here in town where she took him. I remember she said all his medications were pretty expensive and he had to be monitored pretty closely so she had some big vet bills, but it was worth it.

You need to contact Eddie's breeder and let her know about the heart murmur. Heart murmurs are hereditary and she should stop breeding his parents. Hopefully she is a reputable breeder and will do the right thing. She should also help you with his vet bills since he is so young. What sort of guarentee did you get? Most cover congenital defects at least through the first year.

I wouldn't worry about epilepsy. As I said before, it's unusual in a dog as young as Eddie. I'm sure he passed out because of his bad heart.

 

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I am so sorry to hear this news about little Eddie's heart murmur. I am very pleased you have another vet working with you who is more proactive, I know from experience that sometimes when we seek another opinion things can turn around and get better, it sure happened for us with Scooby and Koko.
I will keep both you and little Eddie in my thoughts and prayers
that his condition can be managed and he remains as well as can be for many years to come
 

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Did your vet grade Eddie's heart murmur? My Lady was diagnosed with a Grade 1 heart murmur (the mildest) when I adopted her age age 4 &1/2. She is now eleven and it has never gotten any worse.

A co-worker had a Poodle whose heart murmur got very bad as he aged, but with medications he lived to be nearly 17. She had the advantage of having a vet school right here in town where she took him. I remember she said all his medications were pretty expensive and he had to be monitored pretty closely so she had some big vet bills, but it was worth it.

You need to contact Eddie's breeder and let her know about the heart murmur. Heart murmurs are hereditary and she should stop breeding his parents. Hopefully she is a reputable breeder and will do the right thing. She should also help you with his vet bills since he is so young. What sort of guarentee did you get? Most cover congenital defects at least through the first year.

I wouldn't worry about epilepsy. As I said before, it's unusual in a dog as young as Eddie. I'm sure he passed out because of his bad heart.

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The breaders didn't tell me about the murmer. They told me he was in perfect health. He's my first puppy so I didn't know any better. I'm starting to believe that they are dodgy breaders. I need to contact them, i'm so angry that i've been lied to.
 

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I'm so sorry about Eddie's heart mumur. Just wanted to let you know that I'm praying for him.






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Hi everyone,

Just giving an update. i took Eddie to another vet tonight. My aunty takes her dogs there and Eddie also went there for puppy preschool. So I thought i'd give it a try. They were excellent. They explained so much to me and explained certain possibilities.

It still doesn't sound very good.
The vets were concerned because it is such a large murmer for his age and size. I am bringing him there on friday morning and they will do an ultursound and other tests. When they figure out why he has this murmer we can discuss what things we can do to help him and they will refer me to a suitbale specialist. I am sick with worry and still so upset for my little baby. But I am extremerly happy wirh my new vet. I am disgusted about the way the old vet handled the situation. They aren't doing their job properly. I can't help but wonder would Eddie be this bad if the new vets had been the ones to see him from the start?
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Oh this is too bad. Did you ask if it had the PDA sound?

Prayers coming your way


Did you get a contract from the breeder?
 

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I just checked in and saw all the news. I'm so sorry for all this but now that you have a good vet and know what it is I'm sure it is treatable. just keep thinking positive.
 

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I'm sorry to hear about your little Eddie. I hope everything is treatable and he is 100% better soon. Keep positive, we're all pullin' for you and of course, Eddie!
 

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I'm so sorry to hear about Eddie and I'm sending prayers and positive thoughts your way.


I, too, had a dog with a heart murmur. One of my Lhasa Apsos had a murmur. She was a premie and was extremely small at birth and it took her a long time to catch up to the others, size wise. Her murmur improved with time and she lived until she was over 15 with no other problems with her heart until that age which the vets belief was from old age not from the murmur.

Good luck with Eddie and please keep us posted.
 

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I didn't recieve any kind of contract from the breader. As he is my first dog I was not aware of things like this. I now know better. I am trying to track down the breaders and tell them whats going on. They knew about his condtiton and didnt let me know. I just know they would still be breading from the same parents. I feel that they should take some responsibiltiy. Unfortunantly i dont think Eddie came from a very reputable breader. But he is an amazing dog and i know he is the puppy for me, so hopefully he will be ok.
 

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I read your story about your dog last nite, my dog Benzie just had his surgery on Friday.
At 4 am this morning, we woke up to him gasping for air, and as my husband went to get
him, he fell. He got up, but kept up with his heavy breathing. I called the emergency vet,
she told me it sounded like he had Trekitis (I am not sure how you spell it). But, it is caused
when the vet placed a Trek in his throat during his procedure. I could not fall asleep, however
Benzie did for a while. She said to take him to the vet when they opened, but if he got worse to
call her back and they would have a vet meet me. He did ok, went back to sleep. I got ready
and took him to the vet at 7:30 am. As soon as the vet came in he checked his throat, and
as soon as he rubbed his fingers under his throat, he started his gasping noise.
So the result was Trekitis, he gave me some cough medicine, and a antibiotic.
He is doing alot better tonight!
The vet said, this does happen to some dogs!
I hope your baby is doing well also.
 

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I read your story about your dog last nite, my dog Benzie just had his surgery on Friday.
At 4 am this morning, we woke up to him gasping for air, and as my husband went to get
him, he fell. He got up, but kept up with his heavy breathing. I called the emergency vet,
she told me it sounded like he had Trekitis (I am not sure how you spell it). But, it is caused
when the vet placed a Trek in his throat during his procedure. I could not fall asleep, however
Benzie did for a while. She said to take him to the vet when they opened, but if he got worse to
call her back and they would have a vet meet me. He did ok, went back to sleep. I got ready
and took him to the vet at 7:30 am. As soon as the vet came in he checked his throat, and
as soon as he rubbed his fingers under his throat, he started his gasping noise.
So the result was Trekitis, he gave me some cough medicine, and a antibiotic.
He is doing alot better tonight!
The vet said, this does happen to some dogs!
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I'm so sorry to hear about your baby, I hope he recovers well. It's so sad when things like this happen to our little guys. I hope Benzie and Eddie will both be ok.. I'll keep Benzie in my thoughts and prays
 

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I didn't recieve any kind of contract from the breader. As he is my first dog I was not aware of things like this. I now know better. I am trying to track down the breaders and tell them whats going on. They knew about his condtiton and didnt let me know. I just know they would still be breading from the same parents. I feel that they should take some responsibiltiy. Unfortunantly i dont think Eddie came from a very reputable breader. But he is an amazing dog and i know he is the puppy for me, so hopefully he will be ok.[/B]

I don't know anything about your legal system in Australia, but here in the US if someone knowingly sold you a sick puppy and misrepresented it as a healthy puppy, you would have legal recourse. It's fraud, pure and simple.

Caring for Eddie is going to run up some big vet bills and it's not fair that they should be your sole responsibilty when you were deceived by this breeder. Do you have any government agency where you can report consumer fraud like we do here in the US?
 

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I'm so sorry to hear of Eddie's heart murmur. I can only imagine how distressing this is for you.
I hope he's among the others that lived to 15 years or more with this condition.


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