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I heard that it wasn't good for the kidneys to give a dog food high in protein. Can anyone tell me if this is right? Eukanuba, which is the food the breeder told me to give him, has about 36% protein. I always gave my other dog Purina One because it was lower in protein.
 

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Start with this article from the Animal Protection Institute about what is really in commercial pet foods.

http://www.api4animals.org/79.htm

If you read labels, you probably won't be impressed with either Eukanuba or Purina (especially Purina).

I'd start Bailey on a really good kibble made from human grade ingredients, like Wellness, Canidae, Newmans Own, etc. Nutro also makes excellent food. Make sure whatever you choose is recommended for puppies, too, as their nutritional needs are different.

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Originally posted by LadysMom@Jul 27 2005, 10:59 AM
Start with this article from the Animal Protection Institute about what is really in commercial pet foods.

http://www.api4animals.org/79.htm

If you read labels, you probably won't be impressed with either Eukanuba or Purina (especially Purina).

I'd start Bailey on a really good kibble made from human grade ingredients, like Wellness, Canidae, Newmans Own, etc. Nutro also makes excellent food. Make sure whatever you choose is recommended for puppies, too, as their nutritional needs are different.

You can do a comparison here:

http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=home-tab
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Thanks for the info. She said Eukanuba because that's what he's eating now. I wasn't impressed with the ingredients, though.
 

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They usually recommend switching them over gradually to avoid a tummy upset. Hopefully she will send Bailey home with a bag of Eukanuba and you can gradually mix in a better quality food.

When IS the big day? Soon, I think, isn't it? Has he had his bloodwork yet?
 

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The big day is........still not 100% sure, but I'm going to ask her if August 6 would work. It would only be 11 weeks, but I think that's okay as long as he is fully weaned. That would be perfect for me since I can take some days off then and work with him.
 

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Just posted, but I forgot to say that she only gives a 2 week health guarantee, and I'm the one who has to have the liver test done on him in the second week after I bring him home. Then, if there is anything wrong with the tests, she will take him back. The way I figure it, she wanted more for the dog than what I paid, so another $100 or so would bring it up to what she says the dog is worth.
 

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Originally posted by Holliberry@Jul 27 2005, 06:18 PM
I recently switched from Artemis to Innova Evo because I tried it and Phoebe seemed to like it better.  It has no grains, and I noticed 42% protien.  Do any of the Pro's think that is high for protein or acceptable? 

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I've heard somewhere (not sure where or if it is true) that high protein diets can hurt their liver. But when I did a search for "high protein diet maltese" Bhe-Jei Maltese's website came up.
Maltese will do well on any one of several dry dog foods, depending on his level of activity, his metabolism, and his individual body chemistry. Because of the requirements of a healthy coat many owners find that Maltese do best on a diet that is high in protein and fat content.[/B]
 

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Originally posted by doctorcathy@Jul 27 2005, 08:07 PM
about protein, adults should have like 50% protein and puppies would have 60% protein. 

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42% sounds ok if thats the case.. I hope so
I have noticed that Phoebe is not eating her poop, and that it isnt as smelly on this new food. It was recommended by the owner of the store where I buy her treats. He raves about it. I'm going to ask him about the protein if I remember next time. If anyone else tries this food I'd be interested in hearing what they think...

Thanks guys!
 

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Originally posted by Bridge@Jul 28 2005, 12:39 PM
A vet's office just recommended Science Diet.  I haven't heard anything about it on the forum.  Is this food a good one also?
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I don't have a high opinion of Science Diet. Hills heavily funds vet schools and "programs" vet's to push their foods. If you look at their ingredients, they use cheap fillers like corn, peanut hulls and preservatives like BHT and BDA.

You might want to read this article from the Wall Street Journal:

http://www.simplyschnauzer.net/hills.html

IMO, for a healthy dog who doesn't have to be on a prescription diet, you can do a lot better with some of the other brands made from human grade ingredients.
 

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Originally posted by Joe+Jul 27 2005, 02:57 PM-->
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You can do a comparison here:

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I love that tool, we feed only Nutro dry and canned and I think its really help keep Sampson and Maggie healthy
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I noticed that Nutro has chicken meal and some other meal. Is the meal as good as actual chicken or turkey ingredients? I bought an expensive bag of Innova for puppies, but it's really too expensive. I liked the ingredients in Nutro for puppies except for the meal.
 

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Originally posted by Bridge+Aug 5 2005, 12:06 PM-->
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You can do a comparison here:

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I love that tool, we feed only Nutro dry and canned and I think its really help keep Sampson and Maggie healthy
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I noticed that Nutro has chicken meal and some other meal. Is the meal as good as actual chicken or turkey ingredients? I bought an expensive bag of Innova for puppies, but it's really too expensive. I liked the ingredients in Nutro for puppies except for the meal.
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"Meal" is fine, what you don't want is "Byproduct"

I feed my dogs Nurto and SD lamb/rice small bites. Right now that are on Nutro. They are extremely picky eaters. I've tried all the expensive brands, and some cheap ones. They like what they like, and I can't do anything about that. I'm just happy they eat! LOL
 
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