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First of all I am NOT a cat person. I would not harm them but there is a limit of what I would endure !
My daughter has a cat, it's not really HER cat, she ended up with the cat when she married. There were 2 cats on the beginning but nobody knows what happened to the second one. The one left can be outside but will not leave the perimeter of the home. She is probably the only one who knows what happened to the other one.
That's not the problem. There has been a problem with this cat urinating where she should not for years but now it is even worse. My daughter banished her to the outside for this reason. But from time to time she feels sorry for her and let her back inside. The cat asks to go outside to pee. So she knows. She is 12 years old. Lately she started peeing on my daughter, literally peeing on her. If she is in bed, the cat will get on top of her and pee on her. If she is not in bed, she will pee on her foot. My daughter bought brand new kids chairs for her girl and boy. Now the latest the cat did is pee on the girl's chair. I must add that they added a rescue chihuahua about 8 months ago. Samantha, the little girl, always cuddles up with the little dog. My take is that the cat is jaleous and she is marking. But how can you change her behavior ? Because this is a behavior problem. And this has been going on even before they got the chihuahua. It's sad, because besides that it is a nice cat.
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Could be a UTI, my daughter's cat did strange things when he had a UTI.
I agree. Cats are usually very clean creatures. Please take this kitty to a vet!
Most of the time it's due to a medical issue. I would have bloodwork done, a urinalysis, and a thyroid test. Hyperthyroidism is very common with cats, as well as diabetes so I would check into those two things for sure. Both of those can lead to frequent urination in places that they normally wouldn't.

If urination or defecation is painful for the cat, they will associate the pain with their litterbox (or normal place of pottying)..therefor they will go urinate and defecate in other places, thinking they might not be in pain there.

It could also be a behavioral issue too..but most of the time it is a medical problem
I would agree that it is a medical problem if she would urinate anywhere else in the house. But I have a hard time believing it is a medical problem when she jumps on top of you and urinates on top of you. I don't think she would specifically chose you as her toilet because of a medical problem. She does not have a litterbox anymore, most of the time she is outside and when inside and she has to pee she asks to go out. My take really is that she is jealous and wants attention. But how do you change that behavior ?
By the way I have known a Persian cat urinating on the husband's clothes between the time they were ironed and put in the closet. It too was the husband's cat.
Poor kitty! In my opinion, before I would worry about changing the behavior, I would get bloodwork and a UA done. (just to be sure)

Toby had a UTI about two years ago and he exhibited some really weird behavior as well.
I would rule out a medical issue first. But if all checks out fine, then consult an animal behaviorist that is knowledgeable about cats. I've fortunately never had a cat do this (and most cases I know of were medical problems) so I'm not sure how you'd change a behavior problem.

One of my friends adopted a kitten soon after graduating from college. Well, about 6 months later she got a yorkie...the cat then began pooping on the carpet a couple times a day. She thought it was because the cat was unhappy with the puppy addition. Well, turns out the cat had FIP and had to eventually be euthanized.
Yeah that is strange. I too would say to take it to the vet. Maybe it is having problems when it jumps, that it starts to urinate by accident or something?

I would definitely take it to the vet to rule out medical problems...especially considering its age.
Has the cat been to the vet since this problem started?
I've had cats for years and starting to go out of the litter box has always meant medical issues. This poor cat most likely has a chronic bladder infection for years:(. Please get her to the vet asap but avoid vaccines at her age as they can cause cancer and weaken the immune system.







First of all I am NOT a cat person. I would not harm them but there is a limit of what I would endure !
My daughter has a cat, it's not really HER cat, she ended up with the cat when she married. There were 2 cats on the beginning but nobody knows what happened to the second one. The one left can be outside but will not leave the perimeter of the home. She is probably the only one who knows what happened to the other one.
That's not the problem. There has been a problem with this cat urinating where she should not for years but now it is even worse. My daughter banished her to the outside for this reason. But from time to time she feels sorry for her and let her back inside. The cat asks to go outside to pee. So she knows. She is 12 years old. Lately she started peeing on my daughter, literally peeing on her. If she is in bed, the cat will get on top of her and pee on her. If she is not in bed, she will pee on her foot. My daughter bought brand new kids chairs for her girl and boy. Now the latest the cat did is pee on the girl's chair. I must add that they added a rescue chihuahua about 8 months ago. Samantha, the little girl, always cuddles up with the little dog. My take is that the cat is jaleous and she is marking. But how can you change her behavior ? Because this is a behavior problem. And this has been going on even before they got the chihuahua. It's sad, because besides that it is a nice cat.
We are 99% sure it is a behavior problem. She does not pee anywhere else in the house. She even asks to go outside. The only places she pees in are the dog's basket, my grand'daughter's chair and in the bed. She jumps on the bed, goes to the husband and says Hello, and then goes to my daughter next to him and pees on her :HistericalSmiley::HistericalSmiley:sorry but it makes me laugh. My daughter goes to the toilet, sit's on it, and the cat comes and pees on her foot. :HistericalSmiley:It's not easy to take her to a vet, she is scared to death of the car or putting her in a kennel to take her there. She will fight you to death. We have an idea how to get her in the bag. She loooooooves Tuna. She can smell Tuna in the closed can. She is crazy about Tuna. So we are going to dip a cotton ball in Tuna and put it in the sherpa bag. I only hope she is not smarter than we are and knows that we want to trick her. But how do you change that behavior if there is no medical problem ? My son in law adopted the cat (and her sister who disappeared) from a shelter (the cats were rescued from a fire) when he was still single (they were puppies). Until he moved in with my daughter the cats never went outside, were confined to his appartment. When he moved, the cats had to share with my daughter's dogs, first her shi tzu, then the lab and now the chihuahua and in between the human kids and of course her. She gets along fine with the chihuahua Rambo (who is no Rambo) or Alex. Even if they bother her she will not hurt them, she will rather jump on something higher so they cannot reach her. She will paw at Rambo but never puts her nails out. As I said I am sure 99% that this cat craves attention. She has enough to eat, to drink, a roof over her head, but I don't think she gets the love she is craving for.
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Even if you think 99% it is doing this out of spite or something. I would still...if it were me, take it to the vet for a medical check up. Especially given its age. And cats are pretty much clean creatures. And I think very particular about where they will pee.

Like for example, when going to my cabin, when we started bringing my cat. He is very weird about peeing in a new place, or if I ever switch litter boxes. Or when we go on vacation. Or even when you move their litter boxes around. He would not go for a very long time, just because it was something new and different. I think most cats want to pee in an appropriate place, they deem safe or something.
I don't think in their little cat minds, "hmmm yes I will go pee on this person...because I want attention" lol.

I just feel most importantly before anyone starts trying to determine any behavioral issues, I think it needs to go to the vet. Is the vet close by at least? Or is there one you can go to thats close, so it won't be stressed out in the car too too long? I understand the cat is older, and afriad of the car and stuff, but I just feel it really should get check out to rule out any serious medical problems.
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I've owned and fostered dozens of cats over the years and going out of the box on a regular basis was always due to a medical problem. Call a vet and ask them how to get a urine sample or find a vet who does house calls.

Crystals and urinary tract infections are common with cats and can cause pain and frequent urination. Animals cannot speak and tell us they are in pain so they must show us. Your cat is showing you she is in pain and where it hurts.

Also, your daughter may want to stop feeding tuna as that can cause bladder issues.

If you cannot get vet care please call a rescue group who can help. PM me if you need help finding a cat rescue group in your area.

I understand that you're not a cat person and don't have the experience, but now you know and can do something about it.

We are 99% sure it is a behavior problem. She does not pee anywhere else in the house. She even asks to go outside. The only places she pees in are the dog's basket, my grand'daughter's chair and in the bed. She jumps on the bed, goes to the husband and says Hello, and then goes to my daughter next to him and pees on her :HistericalSmiley::HistericalSmiley:sorry but it makes me laugh. My daughter goes to the toilet, sit's on it, and the cat comes and pees on her foot. :HistericalSmiley:It's not easy to take her to a vet, she is scared to death of the car or putting her in a kennel to take her there. She will fight you to death. We have an idea how to get her in the bag. She loooooooves Tuna. She can smell Tuna in the closed can. She is crazy about Tuna. So we are going to dip a cotton ball in Tuna and put it in the sherpa bag. I only hope she is not smarter than we are and knows that we want to trick her. But how do you change that behavior if there is no medical problem ? My son in law adopted the cat (and her sister who disappeared) from a shelter (the cats were rescued from a fire) when he was still single (they were puppies). Until he moved in with my daughter the cats never went outside, were confined to his appartment. When he moved, the cats had to share with my daughter's dogs, first her shi tzu, then the lab and now the chihuahua and in between the human kids and of course her. She gets along fine with the chihuahua Rambo (who is no Rambo) or Alex. Even if they bother her she will not hurt them, she will rather jump on something higher so they cannot reach her. She will paw at Rambo but never puts her nails out. As I said I am sure 99% that this cat craves attention. She has enough to eat, to drink, a roof over her head, but I don't think she gets the love she is craving for.
I agree that a medical issue should be ruled out. I think I'd also put a little box inside and see if she would use that.
Many cats can be a challenge to put into a crate . I know some put a big towel over them, put the ctare on the side with the opening on top and drop the kitty down into the crate. One gal I know uses those big 'fireplace gloves' to grab the kitty and put into the crate. It's a sweet kitty EXCEPT when it has to go into the crate... it fights tooth and nail....literaly!
I know they say she lets them know when she needs to go out, but I would get her a litter box for inside the house. Just to be on the safe side, it would give me peace of mind to know she had a place to go if someone wasn't around to let her out. My cat will pee on a pile of laundry if I leave it lay on the floor. Hah! It just gives me incentive to not be a slob. :HistericalSmiley: Oh, and as far as it being hard to put her in the crate, I solved that one by leaving the crate out and open. My cat goes into her crate all the time to nap and sleep. Just like a dog! She loves her crate.
Cat's bury their waste so that they cannot be found or tracked by predators. It's a survival instinct. If your cat is urinating out in the open there is definately something serious going on.

Definately rule out a medical problem, and the vet should also be able to help with the behavior issue if there is one.

I agree with the posters that said put a litter box back in the house, just in case.
your cat is stressed ,you may need 2 litter trays ,some cats like to pee in one and pooh in a nother ,,strange but give it a try ,
The cat absolutely needs to see the vet for a thorough check up, labwork, urinalysis, etc. Medical problems are one of the most common causes for behavioral problems. And a cat of this age should be having this work up annually anyways.

Behaviorally this can be a tough problem, especially if it has been let go for years. Many cats benefit from behavioral drugs in combination with behavior modification. This should all be done through a veterinarian.
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