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He's Home!!!!!!!!!! Long post but I need it

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OMG!! Our little Rolie Polie came home this past Sunday night. - I've been hanging around SM trying to educate myself before the homecoming of my furbaby so some of you may have seen me on here. But now my baby's actually with us so it's a whole other ball of wax or fluff - hee, hee -
It was pretty late and we were really nervous b/c he's very young - (this is yet another story-and one which has had me worried and anxious for a while). But so far so good...I'd actually say great! He seems to already love us as much as we love him. I can't believe how well he's doing. He seems to be so strong and smart and responsive for such a little fella - I haven't taken him to the vet yet partially - will do so next wk - but I think he's doing fantastic.
I was so nervous about the first night and feeding, etc. but this is what I did -
I have a big portable ex-pen from Ebay - one that a fellow SM member suggested and then I bought one of those little carrier style crates which I put inside the ex-pen (not the one with the wires) and I put a fluffy towel and this soft doggy (bigger than him) heartbeating toy (which he immediately fell in love with) this is to comfort him and mimmick his littermates prescence. The whole family was so amazed at how he quickly took to his den...he didn't even need that much encouragement and now he just goes in it all by himself whenever he feels like a nap. I have wee-pads around which he uses meticulously and he's just such a good boy all around.
My concerns (out of a trillion that I have) is that
1. he doesn't seem to drink much right now but maybe that's just my impression as he does wet the pads. I find that trying to play with him often makes him a bit more thirsty.
2. I'm still feeding him formula - which he doesn't really seem to be interested in anymore (but I feel he's so little to be completely weaned off milk already) so I try to offer it in the evening - so it's his before bedtime "cookies and milk" style snack and he seems to like it then. He doesn't go for it in the morning. I think he's waiting for his solid food....which brings me to point 3.
3. I'm feeding him Wellness kibble as this is what the "breeder" fed him which I'm Ok with since it's one of the better foods I guess? - (I need to wet it though with a couple of tbs of water since he wont have it dry) and then mix it with ceaser's puppy canned junk - as this is also what the breeder did.
4. He doesn't like his potato and duck treats (forgot the brand but it's one of the really good brands I bought at a holistic doggy store in the city) - but he's not at all interested in these tiny little bone biscuits - which I'm a bit upset since I'd like to give him treats as a reward for good behaviour but I haven't been successful yet. On the other hand, I haven't tried anything other than these since I'm trying to take it very slow - I'm no expert but new fam, new life, and new food all at once is pretty dubious right?
5. I'd like to start home-cooking but
A) is it too soon? - ok he turned 7 wks this past Sun. when we got him :forgive me::embarrassed:please don't state the obvious here - I know; this was part of that whole other story I mentioned above and we've been beating ourselves up over this. But getting back to HC.....
B) You obviously make the switch slowly but how slowly?
C) I know that there are homecooking threads around here and I hope I can do this for my puppy soon but if I start, I'd like to strike some sort of balance as far as a healthy menu and the time consuming factor as I really don't have much of it, time that is....I'm wondering if the home cookers out there, cook every single day or is it possible to pre-cook once or 2x a wk and save and heat it up.
6. The breeder was trying to feed every 4 hours but in my limited experience and the time I've had with this little furbaby, I think I'm seeing that this is excessive as I've been throwing out tons of food - well, not tons but I've been doing 3x per day + his milky instead of every 4 hours and I'm noticing that he eats/ approaches his itty bitty bowl much happier and somewhat finishes his food b/c I guess he's eating with an appetite now?
We're going to hopefully a very good vet next wk and I'll have lots of questions but
What do you all think?? Do I have a shot at this, despite the rocky start???

P.S. BTW He's got massive tear stains but I guess it's normal for a 7/8 wk old with teething and all, right? especially if he's also on ceasars dog food, right? What do you all think of wellness? What'ya think of wellness? It got a pretty high rating on that rating thingy someone posted the other day so it's good? I tried giving him a piece of kibble w/o wetting it and he doesn't go for it yet but maybe b/c he's still so little?

P.S.S. He's so incredibly cute. We love him to pieces! I am at work right now for the first time since we got him and can't wait to go home and see him. He's in good hands though - what a relief that is - it's funny how that part worked out.

Many thanks in advance for your helpful comments/suggestions -

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Ahhhh, so you love your furbaby!!! We all do but it is such a nice thrill to read about a first time maltese owner.......Now, the big question, where are the pics???? We would love to see the little one~~~Welcome aboard!!! You will love it here!!!!:chili::chili::chili:Since your baby is so young, it is better to feed him every few hours because of hypoglycemia. Be careful of that and keep nutrical on hand. Enjoy your little one......Leave him with someone, I would not want to leave one so young by themselves until he gets older......
Congrats on your baby boy!!

:dothewave:

I just can not wait to see pictures!! :wub:
Ahhhh, so you love your furbaby!!! We all do but it is such a nice thrill to read about a first time maltese owner.......Now, the big question, where are the pics???? We would love to see the little one~~~Welcome aboard!!! You will love it here!!!!:chili::chili::chili:Since your baby is so young, it is better to feed him every few hours because of hypoglycemia. Be careful of that and keep nutrical on hand. Enjoy your little one......Leave him with someone, I would not want to leave one so young by themselves until he gets older......

Hi CeeCee's Mom - THANKS for the welcome! Yes, he's with my mom - and she's great with small doggies too as she grew up with them - My parents take care of my kids on the days that I work, so this is a great set-up - one that I wasn't sure was going to be possible and I was very, very worried about my 3 day per wk work days so this really puts my mind to rest. My mom has RA so I'm not allowing her to pick him up but she's a great caregiver so he's in good hands and the little one has taken a liking to her already - he plays like there's no tomorrow and this just melted my mom's heart so she agreed to take him while I'm at work.

Yes, Nutrical - tried it and he likes it!! Yippee!

About the every few hours point, while I'm not expert, I absolutely agree with you and I'm freaking out about the hypoglycemia possibility but the fact is that he just WILL NOT eat that often - in the 3 day's that I've had him he has never seemed lethargic but quite the opposite, full of explosive energy - Is it every few hours including the night time? I mean like a human baby? because he's sleeping through the night right now...I wake up very early and feed him but still, it seems like he's so tiny to be sleeping through the night. - well the second night he woke up at 1:30 and I cuddled him for about 1/2 hour and then he went right back to sleep and slept through 6:00 - I hope the vet confirms that he's healthy -
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Try Cheerios for treats. He's so young, I'd keep him on Wellness Puppy for a couple of months. It wouldn't hurt if you wanted to mix in some organic human baby food too. I often buy a jar of organic baby food and mix it into Nikki's food.
A big CONGRATS to you.. now where are the pictures? ^_^ I look forward to meeting him :D

Kat
Hi CeeCee's Mom - THANKS for the welcome! Yes, he's with my mom - and she's great with small doggies too as she grew up with them - My parents take care of my kids on the days that I work, so this is a great set-up - one that I wasn't sure was going to be possible and I was very, very worried about my 3 day per wk work days so this really puts my mind to rest. My mom has RA so I'm not allowing her to pick him up but she's a great caregiver so he's in good hands and the little one has taken a liking to her already - he plays like there's no tomorrow and this just melted my mom's heart so she agreed to take him while I'm at work.

Yes, Nutrical - tried it and he likes it!! Yippee!

About the every few hours point, while I'm not expert, I absolutely agree with you and I'm freaking out about the hypoglycemia possibility but the fact is that he just WILL NOT eat that often - in the 3 day's that I've had him he has never seemed lethargic but quite the opposite, full of explosive energy - Is it every few hours including the night time? I mean like a human baby? because he's sleeping through the night right now...I wake up very early and feed him but still, it seems like he's so tiny to be sleeping through the night. - well the second night he woke up at 1:30 and I cuddled him for about 1/2 hour and then he went right back to sleep and slept through 6:00 - I hope the vet confirms that he's healthy -
If he has never seemed lethargic why are you giving him nutrical?

It is to have on hand in case there is a hypoglycemic episode. But giving him a high dose sugar when he is fine could actually cause problems.

Keep it on hand, but don't use it unless there is a need. And if you do have to give it to him do not wait to get him to the vet. Nutrical is followed by a meal about an hour later in an emergency.
Try Cheerios for treats. He's so young, I'd keep him on Wellness Puppy for a couple of months. It wouldn't hurt if you wanted to mix in some organic human baby food too. I often buy a jar of organic baby food and mix it into Nikki's food.
That is a great suggestion Suzan. I had forgotten about that. Do you mean INSTEAD of mixing in the Ceasars? Which one? Chicken, Lamb, Beef, Veal? Is Earth's Best a good choice?
Chances are his tear stains are from stress being removed from his mama so soon. Don't worry about the staining right now. Just make sure he eats often, is not out running around all the time (they need down time..lots at this age). Keep his crate open so he can "retreat".
I wouldn't worry about tear stains until his adult teeth come in. you have so many new puppy things to worry about now!
http://www.bhejei.com/tearsta.htm
a great article

Soft & Chewy buddy biscuits are great treats - my dogs LOVE them and they won't eat that many treats - no hard treats at all.
http://www.cloudstar.com/8B85D0640D...AA53&pcs_key=A5992F6430E84F20AFFF37FAEEE9C122

take it slow and enjoy.

OH and CONGRATS on your new Puppy!!
Congratulations on your little boy! Now send some pics of him please...we love to see our babies. I got Rocky at 9 1/2 weeks, he was 2.3 lbs. I fed him free feeding and moistened it with canned food. I also gave him a supplement but forgot what it was...gave it to him every morning because he was not eating much. He's still not a great eater but he's 5.6 lbs and healthy. Cheerios for treats might be a good idea while he's so small. How much does he weigh? When you take him to the vet bring a stool sample with you from that day. Rocky is my first Maltese and I am in love with my boy! Welcome to your little Fluff!!
That is a great suggestion Suzan. I had forgotten about that. Do you mean INSTEAD of mixing in the Ceasars? Which one? Chicken, Lamb, Beef, Veal? Is Earth's Best a good choice?

Yes, instead of Cesar's.

Why do you need Cesar's if you are feeding Wellness and formula? Cesar's is junky food, I'd ditch it asap if it were me. He's so little, you don't want to start him off with Cesar's.

Any organic baby food is just fine. I think I use Earth's Best brand, but there are others. If it were me, I'd try the chicken, and maybe some squash and some mixed fruit. He'll love it with his kibble, I'm sure.
If he has never seemed lethargic why are you giving him nutrical?

It is to have on hand in case there is a hypoglycemic episode. But giving him a high dose sugar when he is fine could actually cause problems.

Keep it on hand, but don't use it unless there is a need. And if you do have to give it to him do not wait to get him to the vet. Nutrical is followed by a meal about an hour later in an emergency.
No I'm not routinely giving it to him. I gave him the teensiest bit (nowhere near the recommended dose for his weight) on the first day when he didn't accept his formula that morning and then went on to practically skip the next meal. I'm typically very weary of mainstream recommendations so besides going on the internet, I also called the Vet that we'll be going to next wk who recommended I try giving it to him to either stimulate his appetite, which seemed to work. I think he may have been a little stressed after the transition and this seemed to get him to eat. Rest assured, I wont be using it w/o reason.
thanks.
If he has never seemed lethargic why are you giving him nutrical?

It is to have on hand in case there is a hypoglycemic episode. But giving him a high dose sugar when he is fine could actually cause problems.

Keep it on hand, but don't use it unless there is a need. And if you do have to give it to him do not wait to get him to the vet. Nutrical is followed by a meal about an hour later in an emergency.
Exactly. :thumbsup:

Nutrical will give him a quick sugar fix to raise his blood sugar in an emergency, but if given regularly can actually cause hypo episodes as he will crash again without a good meal. Nutrical can fill him up so he isn't hungry for the food he needs. It's like eating candy bars all day.

Also, if you are giving him puppy formula, please read this:

LA Animal Watch: Petag's Esbilac puppy milk contains heavy metal copper
Yes, instead of Cesar's.

Why do you need Cesar's if you are feeding Wellness and formula? Cesar's is junky food, I'd ditch it asap if it were me. He's so little, you don't want to start him off with Cesar's.

Any organic baby food is just fine. I think I use Earth's Best brand, but there are others. If it were me, I'd try the chicken, and maybe some squash and some mixed fruit. He'll love it with his kibble, I'm sure.
I know, it's pretty gross. I'm using it b/c that's how his previous family would do it and I've been anxious about chucking it so fast. He wont eat the wellness alone so I'm going to try the baby food. Just to clarify - are you saying both chicken and squash together with the kibble or maybe kibble and chicken for 1 meal and then kibble and squash for another and so forth? How much of the jar would you say to mix in? I realize I need to go to the vet and am hoping he could answer these questions but not all vets seem to be on the good food for their pups wagon. My biggest worry right now is that he's eating enough.
As always, thanks so much Suzan...I appreciate your input.
Exactly. :thumbsup:

Nutrical will give him a quick sugar fix to raise his blood sugar in an emergency, but if given regularly can actually cause hypo episodes as he will crash again without a good meal. Nutrical can fill him up so he isn't hungry for the food he needs. It's like eating candy bars all day.

Also, if you are giving him puppy formula, please read this:

LA Animal Watch: Petag's Esbilac puppy milk contains heavy metal copper
Wow! You just can't be too careful, I guess. I can't remember the name of my formula...it's not this one though...I hope mine's OK. It really smells though. He's not really into it and maybe that's a good thing. His mama stopped nursing him and the litter mates I think at least 3 wks ago because she had no more milk so the breeder was giving him puppy formula and gave me enough for 10 feedings.
Chances are his tear stains are from stress being removed from his mama so soon. Don't worry about the staining right now. Just make sure he eats often, is not out running around all the time (they need down time..lots at this age). Keep his crate open so he can "retreat".
No. Actually he had them while he was with his mama. He didn't develop them in the 3 days he's been with us. I think it's either just a puppy thing as people have said here or the junky cesar's wet food. Hopefully we'll get rid of them in time...Yes, his crate is open at all times and he chooses to check in or out...he loves his little crate but also loves being held.
I know, it's pretty gross. I'm using it b/c that's how his previous family would do it and I've been anxious about chucking it so fast. He wont eat the wellness alone so I'm going to try the baby food. Just to clarify - are you saying both chicken and squash together with the kibble or maybe kibble and chicken for 1 meal and then kibble and squash for another and so forth? How much of the jar would you say to mix in? I realize I need to go to the vet and am hoping he could answer these questions but not all vets seem to be on the good food for their pups wagon. My biggest worry right now is that he's eating enough.
As always, thanks so much Suzan...I appreciate your input.

With puppies, imo, I don't worry too much about overfeeding them. They have so much energy, they burn it off, and they grow so much!

I really don't know what amount you should give, but I suppose it would be the same as the amount of Cesar's you are feeding.

If it were me, I'd mix the chicken and squash together, or find a jar with chicken/veggies, and maybe mix in a little lower sugar fruit like blueberry or other berries every other feeding time. It will entice him to eat the kibble, and he will be getting nutritious food, too.
With puppies, imo, I don't worry too much about overfeeding them. They have so much energy, they burn it off, and they grow so much!

I really don't know what amount you should give, but I suppose it would be the same as the amount of Cesar's you are feeding.

If it were me, I'd mix the chicken and squash together, or find a jar with chicken/veggies, and maybe mix in a little lower sugar fruit like blueberry or other berries every other feeding time. It will entice him to eat the kibble, and he will be getting nutritious food, too.
I think I'll try this soon Suzan w/o worrying too much about the transition...why would bad to good hurt him anyway? especially since the Cesar's is just a means to an ends? I don't think it can hurt to try. I'll let you know how it goes.
congrats on ur lil fluff , a teeny one! please show s pics!
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