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If it's not one dog it's another....my life story for the past year. My poor Jack just had to get rushed in due to a seizure. He has had soo many health issues this past year along with Pixie's surgery for Legg-Perths Disease and Tessa's very recent eyelash surgery I'm soo drained!!!! My introduction explains most of Jacks health issues and they are many. Now he is suffering from very long seizures. He just had one that lasted 15 min. I had to run down to one of my neighbours to take me in with him as I don't drive. The Vet is very concerned about all the Chronic issues that Jack is facing and said that Epilepsy is so hard on the body that it's unfair to not treat him for it even with his liver issues. Jack is soo old and I feel that his quality of life is waning fast! My dh is in such denial on Jack's health issues and will not admit that there is something wrong with him. He says that the vets are lying and trying to get money out of him that Jack is the way he is because of old age. He even went as far as to say the vets could have doctored evidence to say Jack is sick....eg. x-ray and ultrasounds along with blood work. I think it's just soo hard for dh to admit that it's almost time to say goodbye. Jack is after all our first dog and he is really attached to him. It's his boy!

Sorry for the ramblings....just needed to get this stuff out there and off my chest.
 

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I just reposted a re-introduction of Tessa and my other fluffs to refresh memories if needed.
 

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Tracy - I'm so sorry. You've been really going through so much. :smcry: Poor Jack, he's really having a hard time of it. I can imagine your DH being in denial -- men very often are more likely to do that than us women. I can't imagine him saying the vet's faking anything. He must really be grasping at straws. I hope dear Jack gets something that will help but I also know that there's a certain point when quality of life diminishes so much that decisions have to be made. I hope your husband comes around to reality and supports you regarding Jack. Sending prayers to you, Jack and your DH :grouphug:
 

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Poor Jack. Lady has been epileptic since I adopted her over ten years ago so I know how scary seizures can be.

Even with liver issues, Jack can be treated. Potassium bromide is not filtered through the liver. Kepra is another anti-seizure medication you could try. Phenobarbital is the most common medication used for seizures and it will damage the liver over time, but at his age it may not be a concern if you are on borrowed time with his other health issues. It might be possible to start him on pheno short term until potassium bromide can build up in his system. That usually takes 2-3 months.

There are alos things you can do to protect his liver from phenobarbital. Lady has gotten Marin/milk thistle for ten years and it was just a couple of years ago when her liver values started to indicate damage. I switched her to a homecooked recipe for dogs with liver disease and her liver values are now completely normal.

There is tons of information here including a whole section on the different medications used to control seizures.

Canine Epilepsy and Dog Seizures Table of Contents - Canine Epilepsy Guardian Angels
 

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How old is Jack? I know it was hard for Al to face Amy leaving us,all of our fluffs lived long happy lives. but in the end we try not to be blind to their suffering. I told our vet,"if we can't see that it's time,please tell us". I know we let couple of our fluffs go too long,it was hard to say good bye. They'd be sick and get a little better then get real sick and get a little better,giving us false hope.

Al took it realy hard when Amy died,harder than I though he would,he was close to her and loved her so much.

Al was almost suicidal when Amy died.
 

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Thanks everyone for all your support and info. Jack is 11 yrs old. He has soo many health issues right now the dr thinks that we should go to an emergency clinic here and get a full work up with specialist working on him. They said internal medicine and nerologist would be good for him to see. The problem though is that it will cost thousands the vet said. We have already spent 5 thousand on him since march and no actual results other than knowing he has an enlarged liver, heart, stomach lining adrenal glands and a heart murmur along with gastritis and now epilepsy. We always knew Jack had seizures but they were so few of them to treat. Now with them being is clusters and lasting so long we have to treat them if we decide to buy some more time with him.

Michelle you mentioned that your fluff would get better than really sick and so on.....that is exactly what happens with Jack. He has really good weeks than really bad days. I don't when the right time is to let him go. It is soo hard!!
 

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Oh my I'm sorry to hear about Jack, I sure hope he gets better. It's so hard when they get older. We had to make that decision 3 years ago. I remember when the vet told us, my husband said no way she is coming home with us. I called a couple of weeks later, he made me cancel. After another week I told him I can't handle watching her suffer, she is fadig away. She was not eating, could hardly walk, would pee while sleeping. Finally he came to terms. It's a very hard thing to do but it's better then watching them suffer. When I watched her piecefully go to sleep, I knew should would no longer suffer. You'll know when the time is right.
 

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Thanks everyone for all your support and info. Jack is 11 yrs old. He has soo many health issues right now the dr thinks that we should go to an emergency clinic here and get a full work up with specialist working on him. They said internal medicine and nerologist would be good for him to see. The problem though is that it will cost thousands the vet said. We have already spent 5 thousand on him since march and no actual results other than knowing he has an enlarged liver, heart, stomach lining adrenal glands and a heart murmur along with gastritis and now epilepsy. We always knew Jack had seizures but they were so few of them to treat. Now with them being is clusters and lasting so long we have to treat them if we decide to buy some more time with him.

Michelle you mentioned that your fluff would get better than really sick and so on.....that is exactly what happens with Jack. He has really good weeks than really bad days. I don't when the right time is to let him go. It is soo hard!!

I would get a referral to a specialist as your vet suggested. Hopefully he or she can put everything together, review the medications he is on, etc.

Lady has been diabetic for eight years, epileptic for ten years, has a mild heart murmur, arthritis, allergies, dry eye, and is hypothyroid. She's also had three episodes of HGE. It is expensive to keep a senior with multiple health issues going. I regularly spend $5,000 a year on medications and diabetic supplies alone plus bloodwork to monitor all her conditions. That doesn't include unexpected vet visits. We usually have one a year than runs between $600-$1,000.

I had wonderful vets up in Raleigh who were able to put everything together and get all her issues under control. Lady sees an ophthalmologist for her eye issues. She has a wonderful quality of life in spite of the fact that she will be 15 in about 6 weeks. She has bad days, too, but most times she does really well.

Only you can judge his quality of life and your family finances, though.
 

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gosh I'm sorry, I know how hard it is seeing one of our babies sick, my Muffy was very ill and dh just couldn't except it, he tried everything to keep Muffy from going to the bridge, hundreds of dollars, one of our vets kept wanting Muffy to continue with blood work etc, xrays etc. I could see Muffy was very weak and he was dying, I called the vet (I didn't trust) and told her I knew my Muffy was dying and I refused to have more tests etc. The very next day Muffy was so weak we took him back to our vet (the one I trusted) and the vet said maybe we should help Muffy go to the bridge, dh just couldn't let go so we took Muffy back home, within a few hours he was in so much pain my dh finally gave in, I had to sign the paper for him to be set free from his pain, I believe you know in your heart when the time is right. I'll be praying for you
 

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I'm so sorry you're going through this. When my first Malt was nearing the end, the vet said that I will "just know" when it's time, and she was right. Prayers for all of you!
 

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They do that,they get a lot worse and then a little better,then a lot worse and a little better.They never really get back to where they were just a lot backwards,then a little forward.That's what makes it so hard. It's a little easier when they go downhill and not recover,but those little recoveries keep you hoping don't they...

It's so hard to know what to do. I just try to think when I was sick when I broke my neck and then w/ my back injury ,and it was so hard to go on,I wanted to die too. I recovered ,true,but if I wasn't able to recover,I would hope my husband could let me go...

It's truly the ultimate act of love,it breaks your heart but you know they're not suffering...
My step son's Rott is 9 months old,not even a year and she has hip dyplasia and it's getting worse. He says he doesn't have the strength to PTS,so when that time comes,I'll be with her because she's my grandpuppy and I won't want her to suffer,or to face PTS alone...

My heart is with you,11 years seems so short,I think they could live 50 years and it wouldn't be long enough.

Still holding on to hope,but here for you if you have to make that "decision". All of us at SM are here for you..
Huge hugs,Michelle
 

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I'm so sorry to hear about your sweet boy. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your precious fluffs.
 

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Aww, poor Jack. Poor you, too. I pray Jack recovers. I believe one day you'll look into his beautiful eyes and then you'll know.
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I don't know what to say. My heart is breaking for you. And, my thoughts and prayers will be with you. I hope that while making your decisions, you truly know how much we on SM care so much about you and one another. You will find so much love and support here. Although it will never take away the pain of our beloved fluff's pain or suffering, or your pain ... it helps to know that so many understand and will reach out to help in any way that we can.

I pray, that in the meantime, Jack is given the chance to take meds for his seizures and that he will feel okay. And, when/or if the time comes for him to rest in peace, that your husband will be able to accept what will be best for your precious Jack. And, that you will find peace and strength to help you endure the more difficult moments.
 

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I am so sorry. Sounds like you are having to go through a lot right now :( I hope your new vet can figure things out for your little Jack.
 

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Tracy, I will pray for Jack and hope you are okay, PM me if you need to talk, Lyn
 
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