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This is part of a msg. that came from my vet today who had spoken w/the surgeon:
"lets recheck her liver values. She (the surgeon) said unless one of them (the total bilirubin) is severely elevated, we don't usually take them to surgery as it can't be done laparoscopically and is not necessarily a benign surgery (and with her history of other intestinal surgeries!). " I am not sure what that means exactly so wrote for clarification. I wrote back that I don't know exactly what she means, although I prefer to not do surgery & will bring Lisi Thurs. for more tests. She wrote back to explain but I also did not understand what she was trying to say. She did suggest we see the IS again & I told her why I don't want to do that. She wrote that she will do it for me so I don't have to deal w/her! Yay!
 

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This is part of a msg. that came from my vet today who had spoken w/the surgeon:
"lets recheck her liver values. She (the surgeon) said unless one of them (the total bilirubin) is severely elevated, we don't usually take them to surgery as it can't be done laparoscopically and is not necessarily a benign surgery (and with her history of other intestinal surgeries!). " I am not sure what that means exactly so wrote for clarification. I wrote back that I don't know exactly what she means, although I prefer to not do surgery & will bring Lisi Thurs. for more tests. She wrote back to explain but I also did not understand what she was trying to say. She did suggest we see the IS again & I told her why I don't want to do that. She wrote that she will do it for me so I don't have to deal w/her! Yay!
Sounds like the surgeon doesn’t want to do surgery unless bilirubin is elevated, so is it? I can’t imagine Lisi bloodwork changing that much in a week or two‘s time or was that specific test not done.
Also, I wonder why she said they don’t laparoscopic surgery when one of the articles I posted said it most certainly can be done, though your vet did mention “ history of other intestinal surgeries”
What does IS mean?
 

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Sorry my brain is not working so well today. I have had fairly severe equilibrium problems last night & today. If it continues I will be the one who has to see a specialist (neurologist). :) I will give it a day or two to work itself out.
She has not yet seen the surgeon. She had slightly elevated ALT & ALP & AST, GGT in late June--Her Reticulocytes were also elevated, platelets were high, Creatine Kinase was high, Bilirubin conjugated was right on the line to being elevated (so w/in normal range). This is when she started "to hide out" in the BR all day (not her usual habit ever). The vet & I talked about just repeating her test in a month as the vet thought maybe the cancer could be slowly spreading to the liver. So I will be taking her in for a blood draw Thursday when Kitzi does his for his pre-dental.
Today we got the new food, Solid Gold Blendz & Lisi LOVES it. (Thank you Snuggles Mom). It is a bit bigger than the other one but she can eat it as it is flat! Kitzi liked it too.
 

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Sandi, I am sorry they are having such problems. Thank goodness they are getting a bit of relief from their pain.
 

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Sorry my brain is not working so well today. I have had fairly severe equilibrium problems last night & today. If it continues I will be the one who has to see a specialist (neurologist). :) I will give it a day or two to work itself out.
She has not yet seen the surgeon. She had slightly elevated ALT & ALP & AST, GGT in late June--Her Reticulocytes were also elevated, platelets were high, Creatine Kinase was high, Bilirubin conjugated was right on the line to being elevated (so w/in normal range). This is when she started "to hide out" in the BR all day (not her usual habit ever). The vet & I talked about just repeating her test in a month as the vet thought maybe the cancer could be slowly spreading to the liver. So I will be taking her in for a blood draw Thursday when Kitzi does his for his pre-dental.
Today we got the new food, Solid Gold Blendz & Lisi LOVES it. (Thank you Snuggles Mom). It is a bit bigger than the other one but she can eat it as it is flat! Kitzi liked it too.
I glad she likes the new food. Sorry you are having vertigo.
 

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Sorry my brain is not working so well today. I have had fairly severe equilibrium problems last night & today. If it continues I will be the one who has to see a specialist (neurologist). :) I will give it a day or two to work itself out.
She has not yet seen the surgeon. She had slightly elevated ALT & ALP & AST, GGT in late June--Her Reticulocytes were also elevated, platelets were high, Creatine Kinase was high, Bilirubin conjugated was right on the line to being elevated (so w/in normal range). This is when she started "to hide out" in the BR all day (not her usual habit ever). The vet & I talked about just repeating her test in a month as the vet thought maybe the cancer could be slowly spreading to the liver. So I will be taking her in for a blood draw Thursday when Kitzi does his for his pre-dental.
Today we got the new food, Solid Gold Blendz & Lisi LOVES it. (Thank you Snuggles Mom). It is a bit bigger than the other one but she can eat it as it is flat! Kitzi liked it too.
That makes total sense now. All these levels that were elevated with Lisi , especially the GGT was high with Lacie. Though like I said, our IMS just wants to watch for now. I will know more after next visit.
So maybe, and hopefully Lisi won’t need the surgery after all 🙏🏻
She had slightly elevated ALT & ALP & AST, GGT in late June--Her Reticulocytes were also elevated, platelets were high
 

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And I’m sorry your not feeling good. Maybe the change in weather after your trip or allergies is causing your balance to be off. Sending you a big lovable hug ❤
 

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I just finished reading all of the posts from Sandi and was so very sorry that she herself was not feeling all that well. And with all of those issues going on with little Lisi, that just adds to her own medical problems. Glad that the Solid Gold Blendz arrived and that Lisi is eating it. Yes, I am aware that the Kibble is larger, but happy that Lisi can manage it. Hope that it helps!!
 

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I am not out of the woods yet but doing much better! Thank you!
I am adding in some of the Solid Gold Bendz w/the other to accustom them to the new kibble---it does make her poo smell worse! :) but that is a small price to pay if it helps..
The vet is trying to help us decide on a plan. I take both K & L for blood work on Thursday & hopefully that will let us know more. I am doing what I know to do best to help them. My vet said it is ok to continue w/the pain meds until we get a plan in place. She wants them to be as comfortable as possible.
 
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Just checking how things are going with you, Lisi, and Kitzi Sandi??? How is Lisi doing with the Solid Gold Blendz?? Hope that she still likes it and is doing well with it?
 

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Just checking how things are going with you, Lisi, and Kitzi Sandi??? How is Lisi doing with the Solid Gold Blendz?? Hope that she still likes it and is doing well with it?
Thank you for asking!
I am still mixing it w/Mighty Might Gold---slowly changing over so as not to cause upset. So far ok---she is still pretty itchy. I just got an approval (pre-dental) for Kitzi for next Mon. & waiting to hear how liver values are for Lisi.
 

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Lisi's liver values are in:'ALT 479 & ALP 682 slowly climbing still from 2 months ago at ALT 285 & ALP 452. Bilirubin is normal!
She is still itchy! At the end of October 2020 she was ALT 66 & ALP 190.
The vet is looking for something holistic to use in place of the Ursodiol.
 

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Hi, sorry to see Lisi values increased, I am sure you give her denamarin already. I hope the vet can find something else to help her. I know their are other drugs but Cody never was on them to give a opinion. Also to hear to she’s still itchy. Maybe wash the area few times a day where she’s most itchy with cold water to cool it down. I just thought of something, Cody takes AllerG-3 03 Omega Capsules by VetOne. It consists of Fish Oil and Vitamins to support skin and coat in dogs. The ingredients: fish oil, beef Aspic,glycerin,water, vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin A, Palmitate,and Vitamin D3 supplement.it’s a gel capsule. I break it open and syringe feed it to him cause it’s kinda large. Cody takes this every other day. Ask your vet and see if this will calm it down alittle for some relief. Poor Lisi. She’s such a sweetheart!!!
 

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I think the itchiness is from the gall bladder. I did just write to my vet to ask it taking her off regular milk thistle drops & putting her on the chewable of the one you recommend would be better. Thank you for the great idea.
 
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Hi, the denamarin pill the one Cody takes is a blue pill and they say to give on a empty stomach. The AllerG-3 03 Omega Capsules by VetOne is a separate pill he takes that I mentioned before which is a fish oil pill just to calm down the itchiness. I just want to clarify. I have a good feeling the denamarin pill would benefit Lisi so much more. Such a fantastic Mom!!!!!! She’s so Lucky to have you! Hope your feeling better as well!
 

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Thank you---I am feeling a bit better tonight (has been going on a week already) & ate a bit---was living on ginger-ale & crackers. I could not imagine yesterday ever being able to eat again w/all the vomiting. ---not a good way to lose weight. The pups LOVE having me lie in bed w/them. Kitzi has been resource guarding me---threatening Dwt. if he comes to move him---he realizes that this is not the normal me.
 

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Sandi,

You are having such a rough time, I am so sorry. I am surprised that Lisi's values continue to rise. Help, what does vet vet think is causing the increase, denamarin should have brought the values down if it was live r related. Does she think it is from the digestive track?
 

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Hey Walter---I just had her on milk thistle drops but am asking vet for chewable denamarin. I don't know why she was not put on that when her enzymes began to climb---I added the milk thistle myself. The vet comes back tomorrow & Kitzi goes for his dental so maybe we can finally talk. Dwt. will drive us since I can not drive yet. The vet has a new baby so is off fairly often. Thankfully she emailed me Lisi's results from home, but I need a "face to face" to ask some questions. She is looking for a holistic med to replace Ursodiol that did now work for Lisi.

I started both K & L on Solid Gold Blendz for the AM feeding---lower fat & protein. It will take another week to move them completely over from Mighty Might Lamb.
 

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Just checking to see how little Kitzi and Lisi are doing Sandi??? We haven't heard much for you for the last several days. I believe the Kitizi was supposed to have had his Dental about a week or so ago. And how are they doing on the Solid Gold Holistic Blendz??
 

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Sorry, this got dropped as I had vertigo for almost 10 days---I could never be a drunk! It was awful. I will see (finally got an appt) an ENT this next week. Pups are still slowly changing food. Lisi has had a few (gas) issues so I am going very slowly. She either got stung by something or got a chemical burn from someones lawn & has had a bad rash & swelling around the outside of the vaginal area so we are working on getting that well. Kitzi had to have a broken tooth cut out in bits & took antibiotics for 10 days but is doing great. He does tire easily & isn't opposed to joining Lisi sometimes in the stroller for part of his walk. Lisi's vet got a homeopathic med for her to try in place of the Ursodiol but I have not started it yet---& won't until her rash is gone. I am trying to get her well enough to do her dental. Thank you for asking!
 
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