Lola may be relapsing :-( (update on # 75)

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pammy4501

Discussion Starter · Aug 25, 2010 (Edited)

Lola started to look a little dull over this past weekend. I didn't think she needed an emegency visit over the weekend. But on Monday morning she started to have gait problems. So off the ASG we go to see Dr. Sullivan. She was actually due to have her regular pre-cytosar check this week anyway. When I get her there, they tell me she has a 104 temp. I feel like a total bad Mommy for not even thinking of taking her temp! So, they did some labs inhouse to see if it was an infection, but...inconclusive. No elevated WBC's, but she may not be able to mount a WBC defense at this point. Urine is out to the outside lab. So, we discuss the likelihood of GME relapse vs. infection. I decided that I want to try to treat infection for 48 hrs. and see if we can get her looking better. So, I take her home with Clavamox. She looked a little perkier when we got home, and she ate her full feeding of food and drank some water, and pee'd in the middle of the kitchen floor. (she gets a pass under the circumstances) She gets settled in her favorite spot on the couch. And then low and behold she tips over and has a big seizure! Scared me to death! My local Vet was in his office, so off we go again. She gets an IV dose of Valium. (can you say drunken salior) She made it through the night. She looks a slight bit perkier today. Still eating and drinking. Temp is down. But I don't know. She still is not 100% with her gait. Kind of slow and a little stumbly (valium still?) But she is WAY off her mark from where she was even a week ago! I am so bummed. Don't know what to expect. Back to pred again?? I just don't know if I can keep doing this to her. Please send prayers and good thoughts for Lola. My sweet girl isn't even 4 years old. This is a dispicable disease!

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maggieh

· #61 · Aug 27, 2010

Oh Pam - I am praying that the change in meds helps Lola!

Nissa Fiona

· #62 · Aug 27, 2010

:grouphug

h Pam. I don't know how I missed this post. I'm thinking of you and little Lola. :wub:

pammy4501

Discussion Starter · #63 · Aug 27, 2010

CeeCee's Mom said:
Oh Pam.....I am so sorry that Lola is still not feeling well. Maybe the prednisone will help her, along with anything else Dr Sullivan wants to use. Believe me, I understand about the quality of life, I have always made the decision, Heath, my husband cannot. Then I am left with such pain for having to do it. I pray for Lola and for you.......

How well I know Dianne. For all thier strength and manliness, they can never make the tough emotional decisions. My DH is not handling this well at all.

susie and sadie

· #64 · Aug 27, 2010

Pam, I am so, so sorry. I'm praying hard for you and Lola.

rayer:

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:heart:*Hugs*:heart:

Toy_Dog_Mom

· #65 · Aug 27, 2010

Hi Pam,

I read Tami's post on FB and it made me come here to see what was going on. I'm so sorry that you and Lola are going through such a hard time. I truly pray that she improves and starts to feel better.

Sending you hugs, along with kisses for Lola.

edelweiss

· #66 · Aug 27, 2010

So sad to get this news on your Lola---your love for her shines through your pain. She is in the best of care, I know. Quantity vs. quality is always so tough to call. You are in our prayers.
w/loving thoughts, sandi

dwerten

· #67 · Aug 27, 2010

pammy4501 said:
GME (Granulomatous Meningo Encephalomyelitis) is a neurologic disease effecting dogs, most commonly small breeds, usually in females. Most effected are Pugs and sometimes it is called Pug encephalitis. There is a more severe form called Necrotizing Meningo Encephalomyelitis that is sometimes called Maltese Encephalitis. GME can be caused by infection, and in the diagnostic stage all dogs are cultured, along with a spinal tap and MRI. If the cultures are pos., the treatment is antibiotics. If neg, it is assumed that it is auto immune mediated. In other words the dogs immune system is attacking the dog. The only true diagnosis can be made at necropsy. So we assume GME and treat it as such. Lola was diagnosed last Nov. Most of what you read on the internet says GME dogs live weeks to a few months. There are new treatment protocols out there that are making a big difference. Still a tough disease to treat. Something Dr. Sullivan said to me really made sense to me. She said "Dogs don't understand length of life. they only understand quality"

Pam that is a very good explanation of GME/NME and Dr sullivan sounds great and I love what she said as that makes alot of sense

I hope Lola is doing better today

She is in our prayers

Lacie's Mom

· #68 · Aug 27, 2010

Oh, Pammy, reading the update is sad. I'm praying that the new meds will be tolerated and make a huge improvement in Lola's quality of life.

Thanks for taking the time to update. Sending prayers and hugs your way.

Furbaby's Mommie

· #69 · Aug 27, 2010

"they only understand quality". So true, but so hard to except. Sending love and prayers for you and Lola. :wub::wub::wub:

poochie2

· #70 · Aug 28, 2010

I feel so sad for you and Lola to be going through this. I am hoping and praying that your sweet girl is going to be well. :wub:

joyomom

· #71 · Aug 28, 2010

Pam, I am so sorry I just saw this thread and feel sick about Lola. I will pray that she feels no pain and the meds will help her. It's hard to see them like this :crying:
My heart goes out to you:heart: and Lola:heart:

Purple-peep

· #72 · Aug 29, 2010

I came back to check on Lola. I'm so sorry that she's not feeling well.:crying: Hopefully, the meds will kick in and help her get better.

I'll keep you all in my prayers!:grouphug:

Ladysmom

· #73 · Aug 29, 2010

Pam, I am so sorry Lola isn't doing well. My heart breaks for you. I hate GME.

Snowbody

· #74 · Aug 29, 2010

Just checking in Pam to see how Lola's doing? Still sending prayers. :grouphug:

pammy4501

Discussion Starter · #75 · Aug 29, 2010

joyomom said:
Pam, I am so sorry I just saw this thread and feel sick about Lola. I will pray that she feels no pain and the meds will help her. It's hard to see them like this :crying:
My heart goes out to you:heart: and Lola:heart:

Hey! I got the mulit quote to work!! Thanks Joanne! We started the prednisone again on Friday (or was it thurs) and I do see an improvement. I just hate having her on pred again.

Purple-peep said:
I came back to check on Lola. I'm so sorry that she's not feeling well.:crying: Hopefully, the meds will kick in and help her get better.

I'll keep you all in my prayers!:grouphug:

Thank you for all your kind thoughts and prayers. Lola seems to be responding to the pred. We will go to the vet again next week and see what else dr. Sullivan has in her bag of tricks for her.

Ladysmom said:
Pam, I am so sorry Lola isn't doing well. My heart breaks for you. I hate GME.

Marj, I hate it too. It is a miserable disease. I am just hoping the high dose pred dosen't crash her liver again.

Snowbody said:
Just checking in Pam to see how Lola's doing? Still sending prayers. :grouphug:

Thanks, doing a little better today. Her daddy babysat her today so I could go the the dog show in Santa Barbara. They did well together. She dosent seem as irritable. We shall see. Still need to find a long term drug that will work for her. Pred will always take to worst of the symptoms down. I think we are going to try cyclosporin, which is what people with transplanted organs take. Oh, and the pred is doing the usual magic of making her pee about a gallon a day! I just keep the mop ready and waiting! She has to go so much that sometimes she can't make it to the door, poor girl!

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SueC

· #76 · Aug 29, 2010

I am so sorry for little Lola and you-Sending healing wishes your way.

Katkoota

· #77 · Aug 29, 2010

pammy4501 said:
Thanks, doing a little better today. Her daddy babysat her today so I could go the the dog show in Santa Barbara. They did well together. She dosent seem as irritable. We shall see. Still need to find a long term drug that will work for her. Pred will always take to worst of the symptoms down. I think we are going to try cyclosporin, which is what people with transplanted organs take. Oh, and the pred is doing the usual magic of making her pee about a gallon a day! I just keep the mop ready and waiting! She has to go so much that sometimes she can't make it to the door, poor girl!

Thanks for the update. I am happy to read that she is doing a little better...I pray that it continues and that you will find the best long term drug for her:grouphug:

dwerten

· #78 · Aug 29, 2010 (Edited)

pammy4501 said:
Hey! I got the mulit quote to work!! Thanks Joanne! We started the prednisone again on Friday (or was it thurs) and I do see an improvement. I just hate having her on pred again.

Thank you for all your kind thoughts and prayers. Lola seems to be responding to the pred. We will go to the vet again next week and see what else dr. Sullivan has in her bag of tricks for her.

Marj, I hate it too. It is a miserable disease. I am just hoping the high dose pred dosen't crash her liver again.

Thanks, doing a little better today. Her daddy babysat her today so I could go the the dog show in Santa Barbara. They did well together. She dosent seem as irritable. We shall see. Still need to find a long term drug that will work for her. Pred will always take to worst of the symptoms down. I think we are going to try cyclosporin, which is what people with transplanted organs take. Oh, and the pred is doing the usual magic of making her pee about a gallon a day! I just keep the mop ready and waiting! She has to go so much that sometimes she can't make it to the door, poor girl!

Pam the cyclosporine will not have the side effects the pred has with peeing but it can make them nauseated and they can vomit on it. DD was on atopica which is cyclosporine for a year so best to give with a little food but ideally best with no food but many dogs cannot take it without food so just a heads up. I hope it helps as it is a wonder drug for some allergy dogs and hopefully it will be for your baby. DD had to be on that and temarilp to help with her allergies at one time but unfortunately she was one of those dogs that could not tolerate atopica as she would vomit each time after a year so now she is just on the temarilp at a low dose. I know the dose you have to give is much higher though and why so much peeing

I hope this new protocol works great! Hang in there and again you are a great mommy to Lola for doing all you do for her.

also pam if they use the cyclosporine vs the atopica then cheapest place to get it is at costco so you can get a script for it as I am thinking she will be on a higher dose than dee dee as dd was on 10mg for her issue and it can get pretty pricey

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Dixie's Mama

· #79 · Aug 30, 2010

I'm happy to hear little Lola is doing a bit better Pam. I'm keeping her in my prayers and thinking good thoughts for her. Lots of kisses for Lola and hugs for you.

Starsmom

· #80 · Aug 31, 2010

Just reading this update...I feel so bad when someones baby is so ill. I do hope she can get some relief with the new meds. So sorry for Lola and you Pam. :grouphug:

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