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I was up from 2am -4am with maxi last night i woke up to him trying to catch his breath it was like he was struggling panting and taking deep yawns his heart was racing this has happened periodically through his life thus far every time i take him to the doctor they don't see anything i had the heart sonograms done the heart xray last night i was short of rushing him to emergency i held him rubbed his little chest i was on the verge of a silent breakdown i was so scared
he seems better this morning we have an appointment to see his vet
can any of you shed any light on this i wish they could talk
any help would be appreciated
 

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I am so sorry you had to go through that with Maxi. I know how much you love him and how worried you must be. I wonder if he had a seizure since you say he's had these episodes all along. Some petit mal seizures can be deceiving as they are not like the more serious gran mal seizures that are easier to recognize. The panting especially is characteristic post-seizure behavior. How often does he have these episodes?

Here is an excellent link to information on canine epilepsy that explains the different types and stages of seizures. http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/

After a seizure, when a dog recovers, they are totally normal which may explain why your vet has been unable to find anything wrong with Maxi afterwards.

It's just a possibilty you may want to discuss with your vet.
 

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Originally posted by LadysMom@Apr 20 2005, 08:13 AM
I am so sorry you had to go through that with Maxi. I know how much you love him and how worried you must be. I wonder if he had a seizure since you say he's had these episodes all along. Some petit mal seizures can be deceiving as they are not like the more serious gran mal seizures that are easier to recognize. The panting especially is characteristic post-seizure behavior. How often does he have these episodes?

Here is an excellent link to information on canine epilepsy that explains the different types and stages of seizures.  http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/

After a seizure, when a dog recovers, they are totally normal which may explain why your vet has been unable to find anything wrong with Maxi afterwards.

It's just a possibilty you may want to discuss with your vet.
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i dont think it is seizures i mean he was trying to get comfortable he was stretching out his body than he was licking excessively which makes me think it is allergies as far as how many times he has had this i would say a good bunch of times since he is 10 weeks its the rapid heartbeat that concerns me which is why i had a specialist give him the heart sonogram i also had blood tests done
i think its allergies because it didnt happen during the winter i will know more when i go to the vet today
i'll tell ya i dont hink i could really take it if anything was seriously wrong with my maxi
i feel sorry for these furbabies because they can't tell you how they feel
i stayed calm last night but i didnt sleep a wink i gave him water non stop
anyway ill see what my vet says today thank you all
 

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Originally posted by Maxismom@Apr 20 2005, 10:08 AM
i dont think it is seizures i mean he was trying to get comfortable he was stretching out his body than he was licking excessively which makes me think it is allergies as far as how many times he has had this i would say a good bunch of times since he is 10 weeks its the rapid heartbeat that concerns me which is why i had a specialist give him the heart sonogram i also had blood tests done
i think its allergies because it didnt happen during the winter i will know more when i go to the vet today
i'll tell ya i dont hink i could really take it if anything was seriously wrong with my maxi
i feel sorry for these furbabies because they can't tell you how they feel
i stayed calm last night but i didnt sleep a wink i gave him water non stop
anyway ill see what my vet says today thank you all
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I hope it is just allergies... Muffin my first dog had REALLY bad allergies and the vet gave her prescription..she was on it for the rest of her life, but she was so much happier...
I'll keep my fingers crossed.
I hear you about them not being able to tell you how they feel, I always feel so bad
 

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Thanks Natalie!
Thanks Little peanuts mom

Lady i read the information you gave me and it says the seizures last for no more than 2 minutes this was excessive heavy breathing for hours im wondering if maxi has a form of asthma i also am concerned because when i take maxi for walks lately after say 15 minutes of walking around town he wants me to pick him up he gets tired which i have to speak to the vet about also and believe me maxi loves to be outside 24/7 so im going to associate this all together and see what the doc says
i wish they had a pill that i could give him only when this happens rather than keep him medicated
ok well any information helps everyone
 

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Good luck! I know that must be scary!
Keep us posted on what the vet says.
Hugs and kisses coming his way!
 

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This is certainly the season for allergies so you could be right. I wonder if the vet can test his breathing/lungs since you say it seems like he can't get his breath. He may send you to an allergist, but I'm sure he'll want to do a few more tests to rule some other things out. The rapid heartbeat sounds so frightening, but hopefully it's just stress from whatever is happening to him.

FYI, the actual seizure only lasts a few minutes, but the post seizure phase where they pace and pant can last for hours. My Lady is epileptic and she stays in that stage for a long time.
 

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Originally posted by LadysMom@Apr 20 2005, 09:29 AM
This is certainly the season for allergies so you could be right. I wonder if the vet can test his breathing/lungs since you say it seems like he can't get his breath. He may send you to an allergist, but I'm sure he'll want to do a few more tests to rule some other things out. The rapid heartbeat sounds so frightening, but hopefully it's just stress from whatever is happening to him.

FYI, the actual seizure only lasts a few minutes, but the post seizure phase where they pace and pant can last for hours. My Lady is epileptic and she stays in that stage for a long time.
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Thanks Lady, yes the rapid heartbeat is the scariest and the fact that he seems to be so uncomfortable ,
the thing that worries me is this
Maxi literally has a 8pm bedtime and he goes right up to my bed to go to sleep
its actually very remarkable that no matter what he is doing his little body tells him its bedtime and he goes so this was happening while he was relaxed and sleeping i woke up to hear him making these sounds, im a light sleeper and also very sensitive to maxi as he sleeps with me so i do get nervous that i will lay on him or something so i immediately woke up and swooped him up and started rubbing his chest than i took him to get his water and it was continuous for a few hours i had the air condition on so the room would be cool ( we are having warm weather right now) anyway he almost sounded like his breathng was clicking or maybe his teeth were chattering i kept hearing clicking it was a terrible night
hopefully my very expensive vet has some answers sometimes i think he doesnt know what he is doing which concerns me but he is located at the corner of where i live and its a beautiful facility everyone around my town goes there so who knows
we will see i will explain this to him today
thank you for your knowledge
 

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Originally posted by LadysMom@Apr 20 2005, 09:29 AM
FYI, the actual seizure only lasts a few minutes, but the post seizure phase where they pace and pant can last for hours. My Lady is epileptic and she stays in that stage for a long time.
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Not to sound like a nut but do you think kodie had a seizure when he had that excessive panting and cant get comfortable thing that i posted about a week ago?
It says that shunts cause seizures and MVD is a form of a shunt... i wonder if Kodie's MVD caused a seizure... and he was in the panting stage afterwards for a few hrs? I didnt see a toxic seizure or anything... maybe it was that partical brain seizure thing I just read?!?


ummm... Pico's mom... any ideas?
 

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Originally posted by Maxismom+Apr 20 2005, 10:25 AM-->
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@Apr 20 2005, 09:29 AM
This is certainly the season for allergies so you could be right. I wonder if the vet can test his breathing/lungs since you say it seems like he can't get his breath. He may send you to an allergist, but I'm sure he'll want to do a few more tests to rule some other things out. The rapid heartbeat sounds so frightening, but hopefully it's just stress from whatever is happening to him.

FYI, the actual seizure only lasts a few minutes, but the post seizure phase where they pace and pant can last for hours. My Lady is epileptic and she stays in that stage for a long time.
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Thanks Lady, yes the rapid heartbeat is the scariest and the fact that he seems to be so uncomfortable ,
the thing that worries me is this
Maxi literally has a 8pm bedtime and he goes right up to my bed to go to sleep
its actually very remarkable that no matter what he is doing his little body tells him its bedtime and he goes so this was happening while he was relaxed and sleeping i woke up to hear him making these sounds, im a light sleeper and also very sensitive to maxi as he sleeps with me so i do get nervous that i will lay on him or something so i immediately woke up and swooped him up and started rubbing his chest than i took him to get his water and it was continuous for a few hours i had the air condition on so the room would be cool ( we are having warm weather right now) anyway he almost sounded like his breathng was clicking or maybe his teeth were chattering i kept hearing clicking it was a terrible night
hopefully my very expensive vet has some answers sometimes i think he doesnt know what he is doing which concerns me but he is located at the corner of where i live and its a beautiful facility everyone around my town goes there so who knows
we will see i will explain this to him today
thank you for your knowledge
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my appt is at 3:30 and i just ran home to check on him he seems alittle down i stayed with him and was kissing him to death i did notice he has been licking all 4 paws so i didnt brush him i want to leave it to show the vet the house is cool and thank god im 2 seconds away i will leave here again by 2:30 and go home
im going to explain everything to the vet and i hope he has an answer for something i mean sometimes i feel like they have no clue i took maxi about a month ago because i thought he was licking to much and the other vet gave me pretizone i didnt fill it because everyone was telling me thats to strong
i have been iving him baths with oatmeal shampoo but truthfully Lady since he has been a baby i can remember me thinking that he was possibly having seizures and the vet talked me out of it i think they thought i was too too much with maxi
the first 6 months of his life i spent thousands of dollars testing his stool getting sonograms , xrays i have done everything i can so im hoping they tell me somethng so he doesnt go through another night like this
 

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Originally posted by Maxismom+Apr 20 2005, 11:25 AM-->
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@Apr 20 2005, 09:29 AM
This is certainly the season for allergies so you could be right. I wonder if the vet can test his breathing/lungs since you say it seems like he can't get his breath. He may send you to an allergist, but I'm sure he'll want to do a few more tests to rule some other things out. The rapid heartbeat sounds so frightening, but hopefully it's just stress from whatever is happening to him.

FYI, the actual seizure only lasts a few minutes, but the post seizure phase where they pace and pant can last for hours. My Lady is epileptic and she stays in that stage for a long time.
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Thanks Lady, yes the rapid heartbeat is the scariest and the fact that he seems to be so uncomfortable ,
the thing that worries me is this
Maxi literally has a 8pm bedtime and he goes right up to my bed to go to sleep
its actually very remarkable that no matter what he is doing his little body tells him its bedtime and he goes so this was happening while he was relaxed and sleeping i woke up to hear him making these sounds, im a light sleeper and also very sensitive to maxi as he sleeps with me so i do get nervous that i will lay on him or something so i immediately woke up and swooped him up and started rubbing his chest than i took him to get his water and it was continuous for a few hours i had the air condition on so the room would be cool ( we are having warm weather right now) anyway he almost sounded like his breathng was clicking or maybe his teeth were chattering i kept hearing clicking it was a terrible night
hopefully my very expensive vet has some answers sometimes i think he doesnt know what he is doing which concerns me but he is located at the corner of where i live and its a beautiful facility everyone around my town goes there so who knows
we will see i will explain this to him today
thank you for your knowledge
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This may be a long shot but my first Maltese Rosebud would do like Maxi does in that she would sit down in the middle of the street soon after we started a walk and she wanted me to carry her. She was about 3 years old then. The problem turned out to be an underactive thyroid. I believe an overactive thyroid causes a fast heartbeat ? Anyway, you may want to get the thyroid test done on him.....
 

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Good suggestion, K&C's mom. I know thyroid problems are one of the diseases Maltese are prone to.

Kodie's Mom - I don't want everyone to get worried that their Malt had a seizure whenever they act funny! I've had 2 epileptic dogs and both had gran mal seizures where they fell down, paddled, etc. so it was very easy to tell what was happening. I know the partial seizures are harder to figure out.

Maxi's Mom - I'd trust my instincts no matter what your vet thinks. Sounds like you've had a feeling for quite awhile that Maxi has something going on. You are the one who knows him best and sees him all the time. My vet always says "mother knows best" and really listens, fortunately.
 

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I hope you find out what is up with Maxi, you poor thing, must be out of your mind with worry....prayers to you guys.


Just a question, what is the normal heart rate for a Maltese?? Anyone know offhand??
 
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