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Walter - lots here eat veggies and home cook with them and they do fine. For me it doesnt work as well with dog food as the main diet to add too much else. with mine it seems to be about them not being used to a certain food. I gave them fish PF and both spit up and I found gross stools for couple days, so I stopped the fish. This was months ago. Well last week I tried it again rotating every other day with the chicken they norm eat and no problems this time. I really want them to eat fish too. So when I introduce too quick and they chow down and I feel like - oh, I'm doing so good - they love it...until next day when I had trouble. Not sure this is Luckys problem today, but I would give him small amounts like April said or just his food for bit. All our dogs had iron stomachs too!! Those were the days right...:HistericalSmiley: ..Will he eat a treat now if offered?
Find good movie and relax with Lucky. But keep us posted.
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Walter i'm glad your on top of things, sounds like Lucky is fine, but after all you have been through I sooo understand how you worry. Lucky has a daddy who loves him, your a pretty special guy in m eyes.
 

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I hope Lucky is resting tonight. One more thing to ask the vet about - although it is rare, denamarin has been known to cause GI upset in some dogs. Tessa was on it for a while to bring down high ALT and should couldnt continue on it because it upset her stomach. The manufacturer actually has her documented as an adverse reaction.

I hope your baby is feeling better soon.
 

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I hope Lucky is resting tonight. One more thing to ask the vet about - although it is rare, denamarin has been known to cause GI upset in some dogs. Tessa was on it for a while to bring down high ALT and should couldnt continue on it because it upset her stomach. The manufacturer actually has her documented as an adverse reaction.

I hope your baby is feeling better soon.
Thanks everyone, I have read that is the case
 

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Walter -- sending prayers for you and for little Lucky. I know that you're anxious, but your stress also causes Lucky to stress and that alone could be enough to upset his tummy. Most Malts seem to have sensitive tummies and they're also soooooooooo in tune with our feelings and emotions.
 

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I just want to say that from your earlier post, I had the gut feeling that Lucky just had some bad stuff ....temporary bad stuff. I really, truly believe that he just ingested something yucky, but that he will be okay. I know that you are scared and worried, but I know that Lucky will be okay. Honest, he isn't sick. He does not have a liver shunt. His reduced activity is simply natural as he matures. Try not to worry, your little boy is healthy and happy. All is well.
 

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Thanks so much everyone, a couple of hours to the vet. It was a rough night, multiple loose stool, just a tiny bit at a time. Stared off all liquid, as the night progressed more like a mound. Still no eating, now no drinking. I tried to force pumpkin, would not take it. He peed several times. He climbed up on my chair and is sleeping right now. Walking ok, just really tired. I am exhausted. I have a feeling they may want to keep him to hydrated.

Not sure what is going on.

Pretty scared right now.
 

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Just now seeing this..I'm so sorry, Walter...:unsure: you did say you were giving "lots of veggies."...peas, veggies, and the vegetarian kibble are high in fiber and can be hard to digest...too much fiber can cause loose stools and stomach upset as well...I doubt the Denamarin is the cause...however, the pills do not work as well as the chewables and will stay in the stomach longer. Also, I would not feed an exclusively vegetarian kibble... I know you said you were mixing these...but just wanted to add this...you may do better home cooking for Lucky..glad he is seeing the vet...let us know how things go...hopefully some flagyl and a bland diet will clear things up...
 

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Oh Walter-I am sorry, still hoping this is caused only by something he ate that has upset his system and taking time to pass. After Sammies surgery on his leg, he would not eat or drink for 3 days, I went nuts, and the specialist told me he could go few days without eating, but they did monitor his fluids. They told me to offer fresh boiled chicken broth and if he took that add rice.
 

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Yesterday morning he pooped twice, it was large but well fomed and solid. He would not eat yesterday, then liquid poop at 6:30. Small poops like mounds all night. Not liquid, but not formed. Refuses food and water. Still walking fine and is sitting next to me. Tried cleaning him this morning with soap and water, but did not want to do a bath yet, due to stress.

I can't believe my healthy little boy is now sick.
 

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Walter-Lucky did not eat since Friday night, right? I believe they can give him a fluid shot under skin if needed and you can bring him home. If he drank yesterday I wouldn't be too concerned. Its early in day. We've been up since 7am and neither of mine have drank water yet. They are just laying on the sofa sleeping. If I walked them and they get hot they would drink. From what I've seen here a couple days of tummy issues in Maltese is not a rare thing when we are trying new foods and sometimes we never know why.
 

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Walter...so sorry you again have this worry over Lucky.. as to the poop... I tend to think it might just be veggie-overload.
My Quincy has had bouts of colitis... the first time scared the bejeebers out of me because not only very runny stools but lots of blood! A quick run to the vet and some meds and some high fiber food quickly fixed things. He's had a couple of other bouts and realized they seemed to be stress-related.
I got him on probiotics, I give him 1/2 low-fat kibble and the rest of meal is home cooked and he hasn't had problems since.
I've learned to not stress over an occasional looser than norm poop. I can usually relate it to a 'new' veggie or fruit that I've introduced into his meal. I only worry if vomiting was also involved and thank God that has not been the case.
Will be praying the vet visit shows nothing of major concern. With his recent history I can fully understand your concern!
Will be checking back for an update!
 

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So far no vomting. I do not see any blood in the stools. Right now they are little drops. He keeps trying to go.
 

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So far no vomting. I do not see any blood in the stools. Right now they are little drops. He keeps trying to go.
Walter ... I have not had time to write much yet, but, will later this afternoon.

In the meantime ... have you tried to give Lucky some canned pumpkin? That should help him have a better BM. Pumpkin works both ways ... for loose stools and also for constipation. Actually, we add a tablespoon of pumpkin into Snowball's dinner every day.

Snowball also gets the RX Pro Biotic every day, too.
 

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I put some pumpkin on my finger and stuck it in his mouth last night, could only do that once. The only positive is that he is sticking near me rather than hiding and he is walking normally.
 

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I put some pumpkin on my finger and stuck it in his mouth last night, could only do that once. The only positive is that he is sticking near me rather than hiding and he is walking normally.
I bet Lucky is going to be okay. He might just have an upset tummy.

You will be seeing the vet shortly. Otherwise, I would suggest trying a ittle piece of date. That can help move things along, too.

As others have shared here, it might be a food that didn't agree with him ... especially if it was something new. We always have to start off with tiny amounts if it is a new food.

You mentioned that you feed Lucky eggs. Snowball loves them! I have to be careful though ... because he goes nuts when he sees me preparing an egg. I take a couple of teaspoons of egg white and place the egg white into the holes of cherrios! Otherwise, he will eat the egg whites in one gulp!
 

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Just returned from the vet

The vet we saw today trained at Cornell under Center, so has seen a number of shunt/MVD dogs. He reran blood tests and sent a protein c test to Cornell. Based on the changes in blood work, he thinks Lucky has an acquired shunt. We will not get the bloodwork back from Cornell until friday. He told me that the protein c will better help them make a better determination.

He also suggested that medical control of an acquired shunt can be very successful even better than surgical depending on the nature of the shunt and does not necessarily impact longevity.

Still a lot of unknown, but they are keeping him for at least 48 hours to start medical treatment, hydrate him, and get his diarrhea under control.
 

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Walter, I am sorry Lucky had to stay the night. I know you will miss him so much. It's the pits waiting for results but your getting the best there is. Lucky's Vet sounds like he is doing everything to get you a diagnosis. Hang in there, I too have read many do fine with diet and medications IF that is what it turns out to be.
We are all here for you and Lucky.
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