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Has anyone ever had to have exploratory surgery when having your puppy neutered? I purchased my puppy last Friday and I took him to the Vet. to arrange for the neutering and he said that Bijou will have to have a more serious surgery than just a simple neutering. Has anyone else had to go through this? I guess this would have definitely disqualified him for show/stud purposes. Please help. He is due for surgery on August 18th.
 

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Originally posted by adorableaccentsdogbows.com+Jul 15 2005, 02:20 PM-->
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We'll probably need more information, but I am assuming you are referring to undescended testicles?
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I was going to ask the same question. :lol:
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Yes, he isn't sure if they are in the upper or lower abdominal region, but he said that neutering would need to be done, not just as an option but that they would be a major problem later. Poor baby
 

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We had an Irish setter with one undescended testicle. They can actually strangulate if they aren't removed and are prone to cancer, I believe. It's a more complicated (and expensive) surgery.

Hopefully Lady M and JMM will jump in here. They will know much much more.

Here's a little more information:

Undescended testicles have an increased tendency to grow tumors over descended testicles. They may also twist on their stalks and cause life-threatening inflammation. For these reasons, neutering is recommended for dogs with undescended testicles. This procedure is more complicated than a routine neuter; the missing testicle can be under the skin along the path it should have descended to the scrotum or it may be inside the abdomen. Some exploration may be needed to find it thus there is often an incision for each testicle. The retained testicle is sterile and under-developed. If there is one descended testicle, this one will be fertile, but since retaining a testicle is a hereditary trait it is important that the male dog not be bred before he is neutered.
 

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I know nothing about this...only wanted to wish your little guy a quick and complete recovery!
 

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I think that I read somewhere that the surgery for the testicle is more invasive than regular neutering, maybe something on par with the spay surgery for females. I'm sure you'll be glad when the surgery is over with.
 

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I'm surprised the breeder didn't mention this to you. Surely she knew this when you purchased him. That seems odd to me that she didn't say anything about it.

Bless his heart.... Keep us posted when he goes in for the surgery so we can wish him well.......
 

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When your breeders vet did his exam he deffinately would have realized that the testicles weren't decended. Was it on your health certificate? Aside from that every breeder checks on their own. If you weren't informed of this before you purchased your pup you should talk to your breeder and find out why. This will cost more than a normal neutering and your breeder should cover the difference in my opinion. That would be the only ethical thing to do. I hope everything goes well for you and your baby.
 

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Oh, try not to worry..... I hear that that condition is not that uncommon... just be sure you have an experienced vet and he uses the "good" anesthesia that LadyM and JMM recommend. I feel sure everything will be OK.
 

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Originally posted by adorableaccentsdogbows.com@Jul 15 2005, 06:39 PM
When your breeders vet did his exam he deffinately would have realized that the testicles weren't decended. Was it on your health certificate? Aside from that every breeder checks on their own. If you weren't informed of this before you purchased your pup you should talk to your breeder and find out why. This will cost more than a normal neutering and your breeder should cover the difference in my opinion. That would be the only ethical thing to do. I hope everything goes well for you and your baby.

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I agree that an ethical breeder should have reduced the price of the pup by the difference for the neuter. My daughter got a cat who had this problem. It was $200 for the neuter which was twice the cost of a normal neuter. So, if this were the case with you, the breeder should pay $100 for the neuter.
 

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Pippin also had an undescended testicle. When I brought him home, my vet said that it was possible he was either retracting it because he was scared or that if it was undescended it was possible that it would come down on its own. Well, it never did so he ended up with two little incisions instead of one. It was $50 for the extra procedure to find the testicle, and he recovered in no time flat. So no worries, everything will be fine.
 

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I am just wondering how old your puppy is, if you have just purchased him I am thinking he may only be around the 12 weeks age. You still have another 12 weeks if this is the case for him to wait for his surgery. In that time maybe his testicles could still come down. It is not uncommon for them to come down later in some puppies and that may be the case with your puppy if he is still that young.
It is a common condition in toy breeds and can be hereditory so the breeder must have known of the possibility and should have told you of it. From what I have read though, normally you should wait till the puppy is at least 9 months old before neutering to make sure the testicles are not going to descend on their own, then if they haven't you should have them surgically removed.
 

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Originally posted by Scoobydoo@Jul 16 2005, 08:09 AM
I am just wondering how old your puppy is, if you have just purchased him I am thinking he may only be around the 12 weeks age. You still have another 12 weeks if this is the case for him to wait for his surgery. In that time maybe his testicles could still come down. It is not uncommon for them to come down later in some puppies and that may be the case with your puppy if he is still that young.
It is a common condition in toy breeds and can be hereditory so the breeder must have known of the possibility and should have told you of it. From what I have read though, normally you should wait till the puppy is at least 9 months old before neutering to make sure the testicles are not going to descend on their own, then if they haven't you should have them surgically removed.
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He was 5 months old yesterday. The Vet. said that he could not feel them, so he is going to have to do a 3 inch long cut to find out if they are in the lower or upper abdominal cavity. If I had known about this problem I wouldn't have made the two hour trip to see him.
 

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Originally posted by LadysMom@Jul 15 2005, 02:39 PM
We had an Irish setter with one undescended testicle. They can actually strangulate if they aren't removed and are prone to cancer, I believe. It's a more complicated (and expensive) surgery.

Hopefully Lady M and JMM will jump in here. They will know much much more.

Here's a little more information:

Undescended testicles have an increased tendency to grow tumors over descended testicles. They may also twist on their stalks and cause life-threatening inflammation. For these reasons, neutering is recommended for dogs with undescended testicles. This procedure is more complicated than a routine neuter; the missing testicle can be under the skin along the path it should have descended to the scrotum or it may be inside the abdomen. Some exploration may be needed to find it thus there is often an incision for each testicle. The retained testicle is sterile and under-developed. If there is one descended testicle, this one will be fertile, but since retaining a testicle is a hereditary trait it is important that the male dog not be bred before he is neutered.

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His brother is being kept for show purposes. Will he also be passing this trait on to future generations?
 

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Originally posted by Bijousmom+Jul 16 2005, 11:14 AM-->
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I am just wondering how old your puppy is, if you have just purchased him I am thinking he may only be around the 12 weeks age. You still have another 12 weeks if this is the case for him to wait for his surgery. In that time maybe his testicles could still come down. It is not uncommon for them to come down later in some puppies and that may be the case with your puppy if he is still that young.
It is a common condition in toy breeds and can be hereditory so the breeder must have known of the possibility and should have told you of it. From what I have read though, normally you should wait till the puppy is at least 9 months old before neutering to make sure the testicles are not going to descend on their own, then if they haven't you should have them surgically removed.
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He was 5 months old yesterday. The Vet. said that he could not feel them, so he is going to have to do a 3 inch long cut to find out if they are in the lower or upper abdominal cavity. If I had known about this problem I wouldn't have made the two hour trip to see him.
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Oh, bless your heart..... I really do hear of this happening a lot....

Have you talked with the breeder about this?
 
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