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Does anyone have experience with this? My Ling Ling is currently confined to crate rest for 8 weeks or until we can see the neurologist to see what’s going on with her spine. She’s really in a lot of pain. Her symptoms were her back legs were going out on her and she couldn’t put weight on them. When she could walk she was swaying sideways on the rear end to walk.
They dx her with herniated disc based on her examination.
The ER wants me to keep her heavily drugged these next few weeks to see if rest helps. They don’t even want her to walk outside to potty. I am to carry her.
This is so stressful keeping a dog caged when they never had to be. Poor baby doesn’t understand what’s going on. The only positive is she is soooo lovable when drugged up🤦🏻‍♀️
 

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I so sorry. When did all of this happen? I have no experience with spine issues. Did she jump down or something. I sure that it is very stressful for her to be in her crate all the time.
 
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Kitzi walks what we call "sideways" often---has since he was 7 months old before his first surgery at 1. He does not have disc issues but he does have a limp.
 
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Joanne, I am so sorry Ling Ling and you are going through all of this.

Are you able to get a second opinion from another vet? Is the ER vet that gave you the instructions a specialist?

It seems like eight weeks is a long time to have her on heavy drugs and confined in a crate ... and, especially with not knowing for sure if the diagnosis is a herniated disc.

I hope and pray you can find a specialist to help you and Ling Ling sooner than this. I know the COVID-19 pandemic has changed how many veterinary practices are scheduling ... but, again .. eight weeks is a long time.

My heart goes out to both you and Ling Ling. ❤
 

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Oh poor Ling Ling. I hope that by now maybe she's feeling a bit better. My heart breaks for her and for you if you have to keep her in a crate all the time. If she's all drugged up maybe she wouldn't need to be crated because she wouldn't be active anyways. Drugging her up for 8 weeks seems like a very long time too. I pray you get to see the neurologist a lot sooner than that.
 

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Hi Everyone! So the more I thought about it, it’s ridiculous to keep a dog caged up on drugs for 8 weeks, only to maybe have to do it all over again if she needs surgery. That said, I got her in on Saturday morning with the neurologist at the specialty hospital.
Thinking back, there were times that if I went to pick her up, she would cry out in pain. If I put her right down, she would run off as if she was in pain. I always thought I was pulling her long hair, so it was one of the reasons I cut it off.
Then about 5 months ago, she was reluctant to walk everyday and then flash forward to last weekend, she could not stand on her back legs. When I brought her out to potty, her legs collapsed. If I tried to lift her, she toppled over, and then eventually within a short time when she walked, her back end looked as though it was off to the side. This is when I went to the ER.
My last client whose dog had spine surgery said she if she had a herniated disc she would have been paralyzed by now
As to how this happened...I have no idea. My girls are not allowed on my furniture, so there’s no chance of her jumping off anything.
I guess we will know more on Saturday, hopefully. Thanks for the support. xx
 

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Good luck on Saturday. I am hoping it is something as simple as a pinched nerve.
 

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My little boy I had prior to Ollie had Intervertebral disk disease (IVDD). The vet said it was not caused by an injury but was due to old age, he was almost 15 years old when diagnosed. It is very common in breeds with short legs. Could your baby possibly have this?
 

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My little boy I had prior to Ollie had Intervertebral disk disease (IVDD). The vet said it was not caused by an injury but was due to old age, he was almost 15 years old when diagnosed. It is very common in breeds with short legs. Could your baby possibly have this?
Yes...the ER mentioned this to me and suggested surgery, if in fact It is that, From everything I’ve read, she’s seems very young for this, considering she just turned 5 years. I hope to know more tomorrow once we meet with the neurologist. This appointment can’t come soon enough, whereas if she moves a certain way, I can hear her cry out.
 

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Yes I’ve heard younger dogs can have it too, some recover without surgery. We choose not to go with surgery because of his age and weight, 3.8 pounds at the time. We instead did VOM (veterinary orthopedic manipulation), with “cold Laser” acupuncture. The treatments were working after just two he was able to wag his tail. But sadly his IVDD progressed to Myelomalacia, it’s very uncommon I think only 10% of cases progress, but we had to make the hard decision to help him move on to the rainbow bridge.
 

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Yes I’ve heard younger dogs can have it too, some recover without surgery. We choose not to go with surgery because of his age and weight, 3.8 pounds at the time. We instead did VOM (veterinary orthopedic manipulation), with “cold Laser” acupuncture. The treatments were working after just two he was able to wag his tail. But sadly his IVDD progressed to Myelomalacia, it’s very uncommon I think only 10% of cases progress, but we had to make the hard decision to help him move on to the rainbow bridge.
I’m so sorry you had to let him go, so sad. You certainly did what you could for him.
So, I’ve been wondering what the alternative treatments were but thought I’d wait until I got a firm dx From the neurologist before I wasted time researching some that didn’t apply to us. I will definitely research more on the cold laser And VOM. Hopefully, I’ll have that for an option. I do know that if I opted out of surgery, the treatment is what we are doing now that the ER suggested, which is 8 weeks of crate, no exceptions on meds. Its hard to do and not that successful, especially where she is young and very active.
Idk, but I thank you for any advice you can share on this.
 

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I’m so sorry you had to let him go, so sad. You certainly did what you could for him.
So, I’ve been wondering what the alternative treatments were but thought I’d wait until I got a firm dx From the neurologist before I wasted time researching some that didn’t apply to us. I will definitely research more on the cold laser And VOM. Hopefully, I’ll have that for an option. I do know that if I opted out of surgery, the treatment is what we are doing now that the ER suggested, which is 8 weeks of crate, no exceptions on meds. Its hard to do and not that successful, especially where she is young and very active.
Idk, but I thank you for any advice you can share on this.
I wish you and your baby the best of luck. Hopefully she will not need anything more than just being confined to a crate for a few weeks. Feel free to reach out to me if you have anymore questions. There are also several IVDD support groups on Facebook that are very helpful.
 

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Thank you very much. I appreciate your help so much and will definitely be in touch if confirmed IVDD. I will look into the FB groups and if they are anything like my other two IBD groups, they will be extremely helpful...great suggestion, thank you!
I’ll update after our appointment tomorrow 🙏🏻
 

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Good luck today.
 
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Hope everything goes well today and no invasive intervention is needed! Sending hugs!
 

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i just spoke to Neurologist and boy did their sister hospital really drop the bomb. I’m so glad I brought her here today because she passed all neuro test and if anything, it’s her luxating knees. The doctor does not feel the need to do any imaging after examination. There was nothing, not one thing neurologically off during the indoor and outdoor testing.
To think I almost crated her on heavy drugs for 8 weeks per ER visit recommendation. This doctor said there was absolutely no need to do that.
The neuro is giving me mild drug for her knees and if she has an episode, I am to video tape her. I didn’t realize her knees were so bad, but apparently very loose.
Im so relieved.
I mean there could always be a chance that something is going on and the meds helped but in this instance, it is not her spine whatsoever but more her LP causing her legs to collapse.
I still can’t believe the ER and how wrong they were. Next time I’ll drive the xtra 30 minutes and go directly to the specialty hospital.
 
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