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Poppy went back for his follow up today, to have the dye test done, and there was no change ... very little in his nose or his mouth. Dr. Berg says that he just has very narrow tear ducts.

So, I am going to take him to an opthamologist to see what she says.

But, I am just going to listen. If she says that there is an easy fix ... or maybe we should wait, that his tear ducts haven't formed all the way yet ... I'll be all ears.

But, what if she says they can do something. What would you do?

Or, would you not do anything, and just deal with the staining?

HUGz! Jules
 

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For me, it would depend on how invasive a procedure it is??
The constant wet face can't be that comfortable for anyone and the tears can blur one's vision---I had it so I know. It was very uncomfortable for me. I can't imagine it is too different for a pup. . . and then there is always the threat of a fungus from the wetness!
How old is Poppy? A baby's tear ducts can take up to 2 years to develop---I am not sure about canine.
I hope someone else can give you good advice. I can only send hugs and prayers for wisdom!
 

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I've missed a lot of the story having not been able to be on much, but if it were me, I'd opt for just more often wiping off of Poppy's face rather than put him through a surgery if it's just to try to stop staining. Poppy's still very young, as I recall, and lots can happen in a couple of years. Too much can go wrong with surgeries that IMHO surgeries should be avoided if at all possible.
 

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Poppy went back for his follow up today, to have the dye test done, and there was no change ... very little in his nose or his mouth. Dr. Berg says that he just has very narrow tear ducts.

So, I am going to take him to an opthamologist to see what she says.

But, I am just going to listen. If she says that there is an easy fix ... or maybe we should wait, that his tear ducts haven't formed all the way yet ... I'll be all ears.

But, what if she says they can do something. What would you do?

Or, would you not do anything, and just deal with the staining?

HUGz! Jules
Ok, that's what my vet told me years ago. When the tear ducts are narrow there is not enough pressure for the tears to flow down (when they flush they apply pressure) so the tears overflow through the eyes. In some dogs, there even aren't any ducts. He did not recommend the surgery because ultimately the ducts will close again because of scarring (?). This was 10 years ago. He prescribed me Panamycin drop to keep the staining away. It worked very well and I barely used a quarter of the dosage prescribed. Since his stunt with thrombocetopenia he does not have staining anymore. He was on prednisone for about 6 months. I have no idea what has changed.
 

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What were the results of his tear test? Do enough tears get in his eyes to keep them lubricated? Is it mainly a cosmetic issue?

If his aren't aren't being lubricated enough you might want to consider correcting the narrow tear ducts. Lady has dry eye and it causes all sorts of problems. Dogs with dry eye are prone to corneal ulcers, uveitis and will lose their vision over time from the build up of scar tissue.

I am glad you are taking Poppy to the ophthalmologist. You'll get a lot more information to help you with your decision.
 

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For me, it would depend on how invasive a procedure it is??
The constant wet face can't be that comfortable for anyone and the tears can blur one's vision---I had it so I know. It was very uncomfortable for me. I can't imagine it is too different for a pup. . . and then there is always the threat of a fungus from the wetness!
How old is Poppy? A baby's tear ducts can take up to 2 years to develop---I am not sure about canine.
I hope someone else can give you good advice. I can only send hugs and prayers for wisdom!
I agree about the wet face ... which dries and the hair feels yucky ... I know I wouldn't want that on my face. However, I also wouldn't want someone putting me up on the table 2 or 3 times a day to wash my face. What fun is that?

I'm not sure about the tear ducts either, which is why I look forward to hearing what the opthamologist has to say on that.

What were the results of his tear test? Do enough tears get in his eyes to keep them lubricated? Is it mainly a cosmetic issue?

If his aren't aren't being lubricated enough you might want to consider correcting the narrow tear ducts. Lady has dry eye and it causes all sorts of problems. Dogs with dry eye are prone to corneal ulcers, uveitis and will lose their vision over time from the build up of scar tissue.

I am glad you are taking Poppy to the ophthalmologist. You'll get a lot more information to help you with your decision.
Dr. Berg didn't say that he has problems producing tears, but I'll talk more about this with the opthamologist.

Dr. Berg basically thinks that because his tear ducts are so narrow, that when he does tear up, they just flow over and onto his face.

I really won't mind if it just a cosmetic issue ... Poppy will just have a icky face ... LOL. However, if it is something that could hurt his eyes long term, that is what would worry me if I decide not to do anything.

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That is a tough call...I would definitely talk in detail with the opthamologist about any possible course of action.

Perhaps it's just "cosmetic", but I also consider the fact that there is constant moisture on his face which can irritate the skin. London has had problems with skin irritation where she tears in the past. Her tearing is pretty minimal now as far as staining goes. Preston almost always has a wet face and I think about how uncomfortable it must be for him. :(

If it were me, I would have them correct it if there was a very good chance it would improve the flow of his tears. Others will probably disagree. Once you speak with the specialist, you will feel better about whatever decision you must make. :)
 
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