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I feel like I’ve tried everything for tear stains and nothing is working. The tear stains are getting worse I’ve attached a picture. Other than giving bottled water from ceramic or stainless steel bowl, washing face every night, keeping hair out of eyes, probiotics sprinkled over food and a child’s Benadryl once a day what else is there to try?
 

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Welcome to SM. Your little fluff is adorable. If you do a search here on SM you will find many many posts with good advise on tear staining.

Abella had tear staining and I had tried some of the things you have listed above and they did not work for her either. What finally worked for her was washing her eyes out every morning with Baush & Lomb Advanced Eye Relief (available at drug store), Using bottled Spring Water, Keeping her mustache,beard,face dry at all times - which for us meant using a water bottle (think bunny rabbit style) - I just posted a picture several days ago.

You should also look at the ingredients in the food you are feeding. Unfortunately, there is not one answer that works for every Maltese. There is much written here on tear staining. Good luck in finding the perfect combination that works for your cute little fluff!

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Not sure if you mentioned how old your adorable little Fluff is, but she could be teething if she is just a little Puppy. Also, have you had your Vet check her teeth??? Chrissy had the most horrible tear stains and it was due having bad teeth. Once all of that was taken care of, she had no more tear stains.
 

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I won’t add anything than what the two lovely ladies already did, but I wanted to say “ that is one super cute malt, tear stains and all!”
 

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Thank you everyone he is 10 months old and he had his teeth checked out and baby teeth pulled when we had him neutered. I’m going to try using the eye drops to see if that helps. I had Ollie drinking from a water bottle when I first got him but could never find a good quality bottle. The ones I bought would get stuck and only small amounts of water would come out. I was worried he wasn’t getting enough water, which is important since I live in Texas and we have very hot summers, so I switched him to a bowl. But yes I do believe since then the hair around his moth has had more stains. If anyone could recommend a good water bottle that would be great.
 

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Thank you everyone he is 10 months old and he had his teeth checked out and baby teeth pulled when we had him neutered. I’m going to try using the eye drops to see if that helps. I had Ollie drinking from a water bottle when I first got him but could never find a good quality bottle. The ones I bought would get stuck and only small amounts of water would come out. I was worried he wasn’t getting enough water, which is important since I live in Texas and we have very hot summers, so I switched him to a bowl. But yes I do believe since then the hair around his moth has had more stains. If anyone could recommend a good water bottle that would be great.
I had the same problem with the water bottles, that round ball wld stick and barely any water came out. I tried every brand and maker I could find on the web and they all did the same.
I use the bayou bowl. There is a woman who used to make them, Sheila Herrmann.
Not sure if she still does but they are designed so the face never gets wet.
Here is her email: [email protected]
You can email her and ask. They really work very well and worth trying.
I had her make the matching dish that’s in the pix. Very good artist, she copied a picture I had sent her that is on my kitchen wall.
 

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I know several very reliable contributors on SM have said they have had issues with the water bottles.......and concerns about them not providing enough water.

All I can say is that I have been successfully using them for Abella for 6 years - Maybe her little tongue just knows how to use them better as she has been using them all her life..... I live in Calif which is also hot but not high in humidity like Texas (and I don't have air conditioning). I also keep one in my car for our many road trips.

If you decide you want to give this option a try - I ordered Abellas from PawMarks on line. If you do decide to give this a try Email her and she can tell you which size etc you need. Best of luck in finding what works for you and your cute little fluff. :wub:

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He's precious anyway! I had the same issues with Georgie in the beginning, felt like I was jumping thru all the hoops. I was doing so many things at the same time, I'm not sure which was the most helpful. You could try the "Always Bright Eyes" or "Eye Envy". The powder is a bit messy and you have to be careful not to get in the eyes, but I did find it somewhat helpful. Georgie didn't do well with the water bottle either, the bayou bowls are great! I hope you find a solution for Ollie!
 

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My Jeep was a rescue. He had just one eye staining and it was really bad. Jeep is my first Maltese. I hadn’t a clue what to do. The SM members offered different suggestions and I was trying them all. Although he was approximately 12 months when I got him he had multiple milk teeth still in his mouth. And that can be one of many reasons causing the staining. They were removed when I had him neutered. But since it was just one eye I thought that the tear duct might be clogged up. My vet has two Maltese and he thought it might be allergies and gave me an an antibiotic for his eyes. I can’t say with certainty if that helped or not but the tearing was beginning to slow down. I started using Spring water too. I already was using stainless steel bowls for years. But over time the tearing stopped completely. I slowly removed the stained hair a few at a time. He now has a totally White cheek. He was fed grain filled dog food for months before I got him. I use only grain free. I know others have already spoken about all these triggers. But one or more of them worked for me.
 

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My Jeep was a rescue. He had just one eye staining and it was really bad. Jeep is my first Maltese. I hadn’t a clue what to do. The SM members offered different suggestions and I was trying them all. Although he was approximately 12 months when I got him he had multiple milk teeth still in his mouth. And that can be one of many reasons causing the staining. They were removed when I had him neutered. But since it was just one eye I thought that the tear duct might be clogged up. My vet has two Maltese and he thought it might be allergies and gave me an an antibiotic for his eyes. I can’t say with certainty if that helped or not but the tearing was beginning to slow down. I started using Spring water too. I already was using stainless steel bowls for years. But over time the tearing stopped completely. I slowly removed the stained hair a few at a time. He now has a totally White cheek. He was fed grain filled dog food for months before I got him. I use only grain free. I know others have already spoken about all these triggers. But one or more of them worked for me.
Mare, I love Jeeps new picture - He looks so good! His tear staining is completely gone and his ears are looking like a true Maltese.......I also like his longer hair! :wub:

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Sorry, life and work had kept me away. Just sharing my experience, exchanging notes if you may.

I've been hearing others tell me that the staining tears is bacteria related and I just couldn't understand how those 2 things were related.

Momo had has been struggling with skin problems and the vet thought she might be having a bacterial skin infection. Antibiotics were prescribed and taken faithfully. (turned out it was dermodex population explosion)

The tear stains vanished while the antibiotics didn't take care of the skin infection.

How about that?! Do I relate the 2 (bacteria x tear stains) or do I not?
 

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It would depend on the type of bacteria. Gram positive or Gram negative. Some antibiotics are full spectrum which covers a wide variety of bacteria. Others target only a few bacterium. If indeed bacteria plays a role in tear staining (IDK)
then it’s plausible that the type of antibiotics used was appropriate for any bacteria growing in the stains. But not for the skin infection. That’s a very interesting angle and worth researching. Thanks for sharing that. Sorry it didn’t resolve the skin problem.
 

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My current foster, Gucci had really bad tear stains. She always had wet eyes. I tried everything mentioned to no avail. She was getting her dental and I asked them to flush her tear ducts during it. Well what a difference. I think her tears used to overflow her bottom eyelids because of the clogging they would back up. She looks great now several weeks later. I had the same issue with Tyler and his have been gone for 8 years since his tear duct flush.
 

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Thanks everyone for all the suggestions! The bayou bowl sounds great hopefully I can find one. I’ve tried eye envy but didn’t find it helpful. I asked my vet about flushing the tear ducts but they said they didn’t do that and they didn’t think that was the problem and that I would be wasting my money if I went to an eye specialist to have it done. My Ollie does have skin issues. His skin gets really itchy and he scratches to the point that it causes bad scratch marks that scab. We’ve started to use medicated shampoo and it seems to help greatly. I wonder if his skin issues have something to do with his constant watery eyes.
 

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Sorry, life and work had kept me away. Just sharing my experience, exchanging notes if you may.

I've been hearing others tell me that the staining tears is bacteria related and I just couldn't understand how those 2 things were related.

Momo had has been struggling with skin problems and the vet thought she might be having a bacterial skin infection. Antibiotics were prescribed and taken faithfully. (turned out it was dermodex population explosion)

The tear stains vanished while the antibiotics didn't take care of the skin infection.

How about that?! Do I relate the 2 (bacteria x tear stains) or do I not?
Demodex mange is not related to tearing. The mites live in the hair follicle and eat away at the skin.
Tearing is usually from teething, blocked tear ducts, diet, auto immune or bacteria.
You need to strengthen the immunity to control the mites. If the dog has an autoimmune disease, you must balance the immunity vs. strengthen.
The dips and meds are too strong for our fluffs.
I used benzoyl peroxide shampoo every two days. You must flush the skin with the warmest water possible, scrub the skin with a nail brush and flush them out again with warm water.
It could take up to 6-12 months, but it works.
With that being said, dogs that suffer with mange are prone to skin bacterial infections, usually on the body, not necessarily the face.
 

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tear stains top knot or short between the eyes

OMG, she is adorable. One of the things I do with Zoey is I feed her only grain-free, gluten-free food. I really think that helps. I am curious is it better to grow the hair between the eyes to put in a top knot or keep it really short. I have always kept it short. I am trying to grow it out because I heard that it helps with preventing the tear stains. But, I am noticing a little more discoloration and I am getting ready to go short. But before I do I want to know if people think I should ride it out and let it grow, does it really help, or should I keep it short?
Thank you. Peace... Sandra, Zoey's mom.
 

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I think i must be one of the few maltese owners who dont mind the tear stains one bit. I make sure their eyes are free of gunk, or any time of buildup and clean all the time. I don't mine the actual rust color on the fur as long as the actual hygiene is in tip top condition.
 

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I think i must be one of the few maltese owners who dont mind the tear stains one bit. I make sure their eyes are free of gunk, or any time of buildup and clean all the time. I don't mine the actual rust color on the fur as long as the actual hygiene is in tip top condition.
I think there is usually an underlying problem when there is stain so probably a good idea to eliminate that for the sake of the pup, IF it is possible. Sometimes it can also involve a hidden problem w/the ears---so just good to check & recheck.:wub:
 
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