I have been trying for 2 weeks and 1 day to pad train the fluffs. I have been following a strict feeding schedule and potty schedule. I put them in my small Iris pen with washable pee pads down and have sprayed an attractent and also put some of their pee on it. I put them in the pen individually for 10 minutes and then switch out so on and so forth and put them back in their crates i feed them wait 30 minutes and the same routine. I then set the timer for an hour and then go through the whole routine again. I have an expen that they go in when i'm at work instead of confining to a crate and they have peed in their beds and pooped in the ex pen and Riley even pooped in his crate. This has been going on for two weeks and i have lost all hope of pad training. Even if i go to bed late i set the alarm to get up at 5 to adhere to the schedule. I feed breakfast and dinner at the same time every night. I figured what goes in must come out. I just don't know what to do anymore. We are going back to outdoor training and hopefully everyone will be happier. I'm just so frustrated that i failed, but i'm getting some upset and irritable that it's not good for me or all that's involved. So it's back to the great outdoors. Do they just not get it or are they just extra stubborn?