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To those of you with two (or more!) Maltese - Just wondering how you get on when you take both of them out with you? I have been thinking long & hard about getting another puppy but the main thing stopping me is being able to handle 2 dogs when I go out.

I don't have a carrier for Harley - when we are outside, he can walk on his own, (on a leash of course!) but if I enter a store - like a the video shop, or similar, I just pick him up & carry him - which leaves me with 1 hand to pick things up & pay etc (sometimes tricky!) - how do you manage taking both of yours out with you? And how do you get both out of the car safely - when I get Harley out, I unclip his seat belt, then clip on his leash before I get him out of the car - if we are in the street, I don't put him down until we are off the road & on the pavement - how on earth do you manage with 2!?

Also, Harley is a hefty 13 pounds, so I don't often carry him for long periods of time despite the fact he LOVES being carried! (lazy bones!)

I'd really appreciate your advice on this - it may help me in making the decision on whether or not I could handle another baby?

Thanks!

Jacqui & Harley
 

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It is really a challenge with two. I don't take them out much.
If both of mine were like Catcher it would be easier because he is so easy going. Kallie is high strung and noisy.

If I were you I would just take them out separately. The only problem with that is the guilt of leaving one at home. But having two is wonderful!! I love it...
 

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Originally posted by Kallie/Catcher's Mom@Sep 2 2005, 09:13 PM
If I were you I would just take them out separately. The only problem with that is the guilt of leaving one at home. But having two is wonderful!! I love it...
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I do this now, they will look at you like "why are you leaving me here" but once you get the other one in the car you see how happy they are to have that moment alone with you, even if its a 10 minute car ride, then when you get back they are all happy to be together again and it a non issue

but, taking more than one out isnt that bad, depends where you are going and what you are doing, walks, parks, rides to grandma's (yes she considers them her grandchldren) usually they are fine, the longer they are together, the better behaved they become when out

now, having said that, we now have three and Lizzie is still a puppy, 1 year old next week
so i havent had the ***** (excuse my french) to venture out with all three, but in another couple of months i dont even see that to be a problem
 

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thanks guys - do you find that you favour one more than the other? I'm scared that if I get another one, I will play favourites!
 

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Originally posted by HarleysMum@Sep 2 2005, 09:34 PM
thanks guys - do you find that you favour one more than the other?  I'm scared that if I get another one, I will play favourites!
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No, I don't favor one more than the other. I love them both sooooo much. But sometimes I give attention to one and then later I'm giving it to the other. My two are so different from one another and they each have personality traits that are so endearing.
 

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Originally posted by Kallie/Catcher's Mom+Sep 3 2005, 12:40 PM-->
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thanks guys - do you find that you favour one more than the other?  I'm scared that if I get another one, I will play favourites!
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No, I don't favor one more than the other. I love them both sooooo much. But sometimes I give attention to one and then later I'm giving it to the other. My two are so different from one another and they each have personality traits that are so endearing.
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Did your two come home at the same time, or did one arrive after the other? Harley is nearly 17 months old so I'm also concerned that he may get jealous of a new baby.
 

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Originally posted by HarleysMum@Sep 2 2005, 09:34 PM
thanks guys - do you find that you favour one more than the other?  I'm scared that if I get another one, I will play favourites!
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i wouldnt say I/we favor one over the other, i love all of them, they are family, children to us but Sampson was the first and will always be the "baby" if you know what i mean

Harley is nearly 17 months old so I'm also concerned that he may get jealous of a new baby.[/B]
he will probably get jealous forsure, there may be tension, there may be that "look" of "why mommy why" but i would guess 9/10 they will become great firends, Sampson was 3 when we got Maggie, Maggie was 3 when we got Lizzie, Lizzie will be three when......
 

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They are like children. You love them all and you love different things about them. Each of my furkids is very special to me. Cookie is so smart and I am so proud of her. Sparkle and Nibbler are the babies in the family who always needs attention. Waffle is the happy one who everyone loves.

When I go out, I try to only take two at a time because it is very difficult to manage more. I only take all four when we are going to a doggie park or a fun day at a friend's house. On the bright side, only Sparkle and Cookie like to go out. Waffle refuses to walk on a lead so we usually have to carry him or give him free run.
 

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Originally posted by Joe+Sep 3 2005, 12:50 PM-->
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thanks guys - do you find that you favour one more than the other?  I'm scared that if I get another one, I will play favourites!
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i wouldnt say I/we favor one over the other, i love all of them, they are family, children to us but Sampson was the first and will always be the "baby" if you know what i mean

Harley is nearly 17 months old so I'm also concerned that he may get jealous of a new baby.[/B]
he will probably get jealous forsure, there may be tension, there may be that "look" of "why mommy why" but i would guess 9/10 they will become great firends, Sampson was 3 when we got Maggie, Maggie was 3 when we got Lizzie, Lizzie will be three when......
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LOL - you can't help yourself can you!?
Well, you probably do need to even things up for Sampson, he can't be out-numbered by the women in the house!
 

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It IS hard taking two out. Sir N used to go just about EVERYWHERE here! (dogs are welcome even in small grocery stores) But, with two, we just don't go out as much except for walks. Thankfully, from the first day, they walked well together on leashes (once Little C determined that the leash was not evil). I sometimes take just Litte C out. For instance, she visits the park across the street three times a day whereas Sir N only gets out once a day. That's because he's decent enough to use the bathroom in the bathroom and Little C is stubborn and will ONLY go outside. Also, if Little C needs to go to the vet, just she and I go. But, if Sir N needs to go, I have to take both because Little C will pitch a howling fit that sounds remarkably like a dog being beaten to death/skinned alive. That's not a sound neighbors delight in hearing and is especially creepy since I can see a dog soup restaurant from my windows. Sir N is too refined to pitch howling fits. After a mournful look of "Why, Momma? Why can't I go, too?" he settles down for a nap and is delighted when we return. (might have something to do with the fact that he always gets a treat when I return from going somewhere with just Little C.) He may have been the one to teach her to whimper at the door when she wants out....just so he gets a treat soon after!

Traveling with them is especially difficult because I don't have a car and rely entirely on public transportation. I might be able to take the both of them somewhere, but it's really hard to take anything else in addition. So, even day trips with the both of them are out. It'd be different if I weren't single, I suppose, because then I'd have help.

All in all though, the rewards of having two by far outweigh the limits of having two. Fleeing a disaster zone would be very, very, very difficult with one. That's amplified now that I have two. Luckily, I've never had to flee a disaster zone. And since I live on the second floor and I'm not near the ocean, this typhoon expected to hit next week (same intensity as Maemi, the one a couple years back that was the strongest in 100 years here) will not likely cause any problems other than freaking Sir N out.

Now, what DOES help not having BOTH of them be the larger size. Sir N is 5.5 kilograms. He LOVES to be carried around, but dang, he gets really heavy pretty quickly. Little C, on the other hand, is just barely 2 kilos (and that's with either a full stomach or a full bladder). If both were that size, traveling with them would be SO easy. If both were Sir N's size, ugh. I can't imagine. I'd have to start a weight-lifting program to bulk up for something like that!


Really, I've found that one of each size is pretty good. Sir N is strong enough and sturdy enough to do a lot more walking around than Little C. When we get in a crowd, he stays close to me and does all right. I have to carry Little C in those situations. Carrying two would be more difficult, so I like that I can count on Sir N to take care of himself as much as he does. Plus, I can play rougher with him. I'd only want him to be Little C's size when we have to travel--otherwise, I'm very happy with him just as he is.

One thing to think about with having two is not just double the expense, but double the amount of space that gets taken up by having extra beds, toys, water dishes, food dishes, clothes, seat belt restraints, life jackets, doggles, etc. Luckily, mine are fine with sharing their food and water dishes. But, having more beds sure takes up more room. And it's a lot more crowded in the bathroom during feet washing time.

I think that the number one consideration should be that your first dog is very well-trained and well-mannered. Oh, and since Harley is on the bigger size, be sure that he knows how to play gently if you decide to get a smaller dog.

Have I gotten off topic yet? Need my breakfast. :D Good luck with your decision!
 

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Thanks NC's mum - a very important point you made there about his manners & behaviour. Basically, he will behave - but only if he feels like it! Also, we haven't had the opportunity to socialise with others very much.

Thank you for making this point, it's made me realise that I think we need to do a bit more socialising before I think of bringing home a new brother or sister for Harley.
 

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Originally posted by Joe+Sep 3 2005, 01:46 PM-->
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Have I gotten off topic yet?  Need my breakfast.  :D  Good luck with your decision!
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Sir N is 5.5 kilograms.[/B]

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Harley is 5.9 kilograms - which is just a little over 13 pounds, so I guess Sir N would be about 12 pounds.
 

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We don't take the girls out much.. When Kylie was a baby we took her everywhere... If we could take her, she went. Now that we have Katie, we leave them at home most of the time... There is no taking one out and leaving the other behind.. Kylie would get very upset about being left behind and Katie would be very upset if left alone without Kylie.. The only time they go out with us is if we are going to my mom's or if they have to go to the vet... But it is fun to have two.. Like Charmypoo said, you love them the same, but for different reasons.. Kylie is our smart little girl, Katie is our happy little girl..

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Originally posted by HarleysMum@Sep 2 2005, 10:50 PM
Thank you for making this point, it's made me realise that I think we need to do a bit more socialising before I think of bringing home a new brother or sister for Harley.
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thats always a good point, Sampson is very social towards other dogs, even other animals, Maggie is not, Lizzie seams to be more like Sampson so far but I have found introducing a Malt to a Malt is alot easier than with another breed, its almost like they know each other, does that sound
 

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Originally posted by Joe+Sep 3 2005, 01:56 PM-->
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Thank you for making this point, it's made me realise that I think we need to do a bit more socialising before I think of bringing home a new brother or sister for Harley.
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thats always a good point, Sampson is very social towards other dogs, even other animals, Maggie is not, Lizzie seams to be more like Sampson so far but I have found introducing a Malt to a Malt is alot easier than with another breed, its almost like they know each other, does that sound

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No, it doesn't sound
it makes perfect sense to me! Maybe that means I'm
 

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I have an okay time taking both boys out, but it can be a major pain sometimes. When I go walk to the store I can have both boys walk on leash, but if my trip involves a car Tic has to stay home
He is not responding well to any of the things I am trying to stop or lessen his motion sickness. My next step is a prescription med from the vet. Peanut loves the car so I do make sure I bring him for rides, but Tic gets sick so it's no fun for anyone. I feel bad if I leave one home while the other is out with me, but I try to make it up to them. I must admit, I'm a bad mommy and I favor Peanut because he is my first baby, but I love both boys so much
I am going away in a couple of weeks and Peanut is coming with me, but Tic will be staying home with my sister. I am feeling terrible and guilty about it, but I hope they forgive me
 

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Alissa, don't feel terrible!! I am sure the boys will forgive you.

The problems in taking 2 dogs out is exactly why although I really want another maltese, I am not so sure that we should get another one. We take Miko everywhere and lots of places in US are not pet friendly. It would be much harder to sneak 2 in everywhere. And it doesn't seem all that fair to Miko if we got another one and as a result he would have to stay home most of the time (except for walks). But then again, he would probably appreciate company during the day when we are at work.... so I don't know!!
 

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I tried both dogs on leashes, then I tried using one leash with a coupler, and decided pretty fast I needed a stroller. With the stroller I can put them both in and the dogs can't trip anyone or go in opposite directions. Bella was three when my brother got Harley, and I think she has mixed feelings about it. When I'm home, Bella kind of acts jealous and looks at Harley like shes in the way, but when I'm out, mom says they play and sleep side by side, and Bella seems really happy to have Harley, so I guess its worked out good. I still take Bella out occasionaly just the two of us, and she really enjoys that. I guess theres good and bad, but as long as you're ready for twice the vet bills and twice the love its great. Personally, I love Harley like crazy, but I will be glad when my brother gets home for good in November and both dogs can have more individual attention.
 
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